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Old 06-29-2022, 01:18 PM  
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Cost of electricity

I was wondering how come the electricity in my office was not lower after I made some serious improvements/changes.

I compared 12/21 bill vs 6/22. I about floored me.

kw/h

12/21 $0.0161
6/22 $0.0289

Holy crap that is a jump.

The company is Evergy.

This will probably end up in DC. But there are a number of posts related to money in the lounge.
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Old 06-29-2024, 08:40 PM   #76
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I’ll wreck the whole grid and put us all back to caveman status before I set my thermostat at 78.
I’m trying it for the first billable cycle to see the actual difference. So far, I’m stunned that after real adherence to these guidelines, I’m looking at a bill that’s double the June 2023 bill.
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Old 06-29-2024, 08:46 PM   #77
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As the June billing cycle comes through, I’m sure this will be a big issue with the local TV/radio stations. After the recent property tax increases, as soon as the fixed income folks get a giant bill or somebody’s grandparent meets their maker cause the house got too hot, the pressure will be on.

I may have to go the solar route.
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Old 06-30-2024, 12:43 AM   #78
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The new rate plans have gone into effect for summer. Basically, the rates from 4pm to 8pm during the week are doubled. I got an email stating that to save money, I should bump my thermostat down a couple of degrees several hours before 4pm, then several degrees above where I would normally keep it at 4pm and then back down at 8pm.

Sounds like a bad idea, so being an idiot, I tried it. My results...

2pm set thermostat to 76 degrees. 4pm set thermostat to 81 degrees. 6pm the house is muggy and uncomfortable at 81 degrees. AC comes on, house is muggy still at 7pm.

So, I made the AC work harder than normal before 4pm, then try to play catch up during the most expensive time of day.

New HVAC system is about $12,000 as mine is a 1998 system with a leak and an old furnace. At least none of the people giving me bids tried to tell me it would pay for itself like the window replacement guy and $30,000 for 15 standard size windows.
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Old 06-30-2024, 05:21 AM   #79
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I am waiting to see what my bill will be with the new kwH increase. They are actually almost quadrupled during the 4p/8p segment.

I've followed their suggestions much like Kirk posted above. 4p/8p we turn the thermostat to 78 and hit the basement where it's still 68. No dishwasher/oven/stove/showers/washer/dryer usage during that time period.


My projected bill?



$360.




That's double what my normal bill is in June.

**** YOU Missouri Public Service Commission and **** YOU EVERGY.
It's all of them. They're all changing rates.
Then again, everything is switching to electric for power. Keep in mind that 40 years ago people didn't each have a cell phone, tablet, and car all running off the plug in at home. People didn't have 5 or 6 TV screens or monitors all running at the same time. Every appliance wasn't electric.
There's a greater demand for electric energy now than ever before and you know what they say about supply and demand.
Hell, the PC I'm typing on now heats my entire living room in the winter just by forcing it to try and play Ark. I have it by a window I have to crack open that helps cool it. It's also placed by the AC vent that blows right on it in summer.
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Old 06-30-2024, 06:14 AM   #80
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Inflation is a horrible tax that stuns those who cannot respond. Fixed income folks suffer greatly.

The discussion this week on KMBZ Morning show was about rentals with no AC and when do we "force" landlords to supply AC to all rentals.

Absurd across the board.

We have forgotten that when things become more expensive we have to use less or reallocate from other areas we spend. Evergy seems from all accounts to be heartless bastards who abuse thir position. But aside from that. The only way the Grid can regulate electric demand is to make it more expensive to moderate use.
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Old 08-29-2024, 07:51 AM   #81
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Evergy has put forth a 14% rate increase to the Missouri Public Service Commission. They are taking public comments now. I’d advise you all to get on line and tell the MPSC to deny this.

These monopolized ****heads are pretty shameless when they want money. This rate increase comes just 12 months after they were allowed to gouge out the quadrupled 4p-8p rates this year.

Their claim is it’s cost them a lot of money to fix their own shit after a storm. And depending on where you live can be 7-10 days as happened all over prairie Village and OP this spring.

Also, they paid out about 500M in dividends to their shareholders. Might want to sink a lot if that back into the infrastructure, you Kunts.
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Old 08-29-2024, 07:58 AM   #82
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Evergy has put forth a 14% rate increase to the Missouri Public Service Commission. They are taking public comments now. I’d advise you all to get on line and tell the MPSC to deny this.

These monopolized ****heads are pretty shameless when they want money. This rate increase comes just 12 months after they were allowed to gouge out the quadrupled 4p-8p rates this year.

Their claim is it’s cost them a lot of money to fix their own shit after a storm. And depending on where you live can be 7-10 days as happened all over prairie Village and OP this spring.

Also, they paid out about 500M in dividends to their shareholders. Might want to sink a lot if that back into the infrastructure, you Kunts.
The same thing happens in Kansas. A utility company presents their rate increase request to a state board that is supposed to serve the people, but they grant the requests every single ****ing time.
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Old 08-29-2024, 07:58 AM   #83
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My energy bill in the summer has been around $380 to $475 for a decade now. But Ive learned most ppl don't keep their house at 70 for some reason.

Gotta stop being lazy and get solar
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Evergy is a pretty terrible company, they also send out fliers that tell you to do laundry at 3 AM to save money.
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My energy bill in the summer has been around $380 to $475 for a decade now. But Ive learned most ppl don't keep their house at 70 for some reason.

Gotta stop being lazy and get solar
With all the demand and the rate increases, I'm so glad that I decided to go solar a couple of years ago. My most recent Evergy bill is $49. It covers most, but not all, of my electricity needs. I suppose that once my daughter moves out, it will probably cover everything.

And here's another wonderful thing that they do. When I was looking to buy solar panels, I was told that in Kansas, you can't be completely off the grid. But Evergy automatically charges like $15 just to be connected to the grid. Sounds like a racket.

Oh well, after I pay off these solar panels, it will be pretty much free electricity for the rest of my days. They say they are warrantied to produce something like 90% or 92% of their original output after 25 years, long after mine will have been paid. Best decision I could have made.
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Evergy is a pretty terrible company, they also send out fliers that tell you to do laundry at 3 AM to save money.
Combine that with their "helpful" emails showing I used X amount more energy over the summer compared to spring, and why I should be concerned about my increased usage. Terrible company indeed that can take their bullshit all the way over there.
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Evergy is a pretty terrible company, they also send out fliers that tell you to do laundry at 3 AM to save money.
Wouldn't that be nice.......if you are an owl.
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Combine that with their "helpful" emails showing I used X amount more energy over the summer compared to spring, and why I should be concerned about my increased usage. Terrible company indeed that can take their bullshit all the way over there.
They are the epitome of over charge, raise prices and then act like it's your fault cause hey what are you gonna do? It's not like you get a choice in electric companies.

My absolutely favorite part of all of this is they'll raise prices to increase profit, put none of that back into the company and then when their grid ****s up again they'll raise the prices again while not improving the grid.
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When I was looking to buy solar panels, I was told that in Kansas, you can't be completely off the grid.
I'm pretty sure that isn't a state law.
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I'm pretty sure that isn't a state law.
It depends where he lives, it's going to have to do with zoning.
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