Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 597

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Prison Bitch · 07-26-2021, 01:44 PM

“Hey Cal and Stanford, KSU is totally a cultural fit with you all”

Among 65 counties in America with a Power 5 university, guess which one ranks dead last in adult vaccination rate?

Riley County, Kansas (34%)

We *must* do better. Students return in a month. Please help prevent completely unnecessary suffering. Get vaccinated. @KState
— Tyler Dreiling (@TylerDreiling) July 21, 2021

Hawker007 · 07-26-2021, 02:18 PM

Does California still have the law that the State funded schools can't play sports in states that have anti LGBTQ laws? Not that KS had truly anti LGBTQ laws, they just weren't progressive enough for California. Not sure if any of that has changed?

BWillie · 07-26-2021, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

KU football program letting Nebraska, Wisconsin or Iowa getting fat on wins is what the Big Ten needs as well. You don't always need 500 pound gorillas, you need something for them to eat as well.

I thought that was what Nebraska was for?

Iowa has annihilated Nebraska since they joined the Big 10. Nebby fans did not anticipate that.

Kiimo · 07-26-2021, 02:29 PM

I think Kansas is pretty hopeful about improving football and that's why the B1G is #1 on their wishlist. ACC or PAC after that.

The Big East is last

BWillie · 07-26-2021, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I think Kansas is pretty hopeful about improving football and that's why the B1G is #1 on their wishlist. ACC or PAC after that.

The Big East is last

At first I wanted the ACC, but I can't imagine them bending over backwards to market Kansas even in bball. Duke and UNC would still be their darlings.

B1G it is, I hope.

I'd be in favor of a Big 12/Big East/AAC merger deal.

You could make a pretty nice conference out of that...

Kansas
K-State
Iowa State
Oklahoma State
TCU
Baylor
Texas Tech
Cincinnati
UCF
Houston
Memphis
UConn
Villanova

Could maintain the bball division Big East/Big 12. Maybe you could poach Boise State, Nevada & New Mexico from the Mtn West and BYU.

ROYC75 · 07-26-2021, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

My prof in grad school used to day: “Your first option in any decision is to do nothing”. People often forget that.

Applying it to the B12 rump....what does do-nothing look like? If I read this right, there’s 3 years left on that zombie TV deal OU and Tex just walked away from. So $350M split 8 ways now = $40m+ in the short run.

I believe that gives them 3 years to figure out a plan. Not 3 days.

This, nothing needs to be done, NOW!

Kiimo · 07-26-2021, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie

At first I wanted the ACC, but I can't imagine them bending over backwards to market Kansas even in bball. Duke and UNC would still be their darlings.

B1G it is, I hope.

I'd be in favor of a Big 12/Big East/AAC merger deal.

You could make a pretty nice conference out of that...

Kansas
K-State
Iowa State
Oklahoma State
TCU
Baylor
Texas Tech
Cincinnati
UCF
Houston
Memphis
UConn
Villanova

Could maintain the bball division Big East/Big 12. Maybe you could poach Boise State, Nevada & New Mexico from the Mtn West and BYU.

That is certainly a diminished conference and the B1G would be highly preferable to me.

**ptlyon** · 07-26-2021, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie

I thought that was what Nebraska was for?

Iowa has annihilated Nebraska since they joined the Big 10. Nebby fans did not anticipate that.

All we heard was "if we were in the big 10 we'd mop it up" and when they switched they got a huge awakening

Kiimo · 07-26-2021, 02:52 PM

To be fair to Nebraska the shift in recruiting and their loss of a great coach had more to do with it than the conference.

The Nebraska of old could certainly compete with anyone in the Big 10 of that era. Teams don't do option football anymore and Tom Osborn is eating stirred peas from a Nurse's spoon

KChiefs1 · 07-26-2021, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda

Big East makes even more sense. Dominant basketball centric conference that puts little to no value on a football program.

That is my thought too.

ChiefsHawk · 07-26-2021, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75

This, nothing needs to be done, NOW!

Cept all the major conferences are going to fill their needs asap. So in reality they do need to act quickly or become a MAC member

Prison Bitch · 07-26-2021, 03:13 PM

KSU might have a landing spot:

Mountain West is “identifying potential opportunities” regarding Texas & OU leaving Big 12 https://t.co/j75kmlnwrC
— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) July 26, 2021

Sassy Squatch · 07-26-2021, 03:52 PM

SEC presidents have called a meeting for Thursday, sources tell @SINow.

Texas & OU took the first step in joining the league today. The second step is applying for membership, which is expected but hasn't yet happened as of Monday at 5 ET.

The third step: SEC presidential vote.
— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) July 26, 2021

Pitt Gorilla · 07-26-2021, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

KSU might have a landing spot:

Mountain West is “identifying potential opportunities” regarding Texas & OU leaving Big 12 https://t.co/j75kmlnwrC
— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) July 26, 2021

Does KSU improve the Mountain West?

BWillie · 07-26-2021, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Does KSU improve the Mountain West?

Of course. That 2013 National Soil judging championship has to mean something.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $2728742	To be fair to Nebraska the shift in recruiting and their loss of a great coach had more to do with it than the conference. The Nebraska of old could certainly compete with anyone in the Big 10 of that era. Teams don't do option football anymore and Tom Osborn is eating stirred peas from a Nurse's spoon
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Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	KSU might have a landing spot: Mountain West is “identifying potential opportunities” regarding Texas & OU leaving Big 12 https://t.co/j75kmlnwrC — Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) July 26, 2021
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