Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 595

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

KChiefs1 · 07-26-2021, 10:02 AM

Gave DeArmond’s thoughts are exactly like mine. From PowerMizzou:

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1) I find myself this morning harkening back to simpler times. Times when the SEC had 14 teams, Texas and Oklahoma ran the Big 12 and college athletes played for the love of the game and didn't demand any of the millions of dollars they produced by playing football. It was a month ago. By August 1, Name, Image and Likeness will be a month old. Texas and Oklahoma will likely have informed the Big 12 they are done playing in the Big 12 (by 2025 at the latest, but in all likelihood a fair amount sooner) and the SEC will be on the verge of becoming college sports' version of the Death Star. I don't think it's overstating it to say that this month may end up being the most transformative month in the history of college sports. Whether you think the changes are good, bad or a little bit of both, there is no denying that what happens in July of 2021 will completely change the face of college football, and as a result, all of college sports, like few other months ever have.

That said, God do I love conference realignment. I've been checking various message boards every few minutes since Wednesday afternoon. If it was a drug, I'd be a full blown addict. I would empty my bank accounts to follow it. I love it all. It's been way too long since it's been a part of my life. Everything else is secondary for me these days.

Hoover · 07-26-2021, 10:08 AM

Great read on what the Big 10 should do in the Athletic

https://theathletic.com/2729861/2021...shared_article

BWillie · 07-26-2021, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

Why would the B1G want Iowa State? Especially when they’ve already got Iowa.

I don't quite get it either. Yeah, they are in the AAC or whatever for academics but ISU brings you no more eyeballs. Iowa owns every single market in Iowa, even Des Moines. Bringing ISU does nothing.

Mtn West time clones. You could always go to the Missouri Valley. That would be a fit geographically and then they play rival Drake.

BWillie · 07-26-2021, 10:32 AM

I have an idea. Make a new conference. Call it Midwest AF. Claim the AF doesn't mean AF, but we all know it really does.

Kansas
Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Oklahoma State
Illinois
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Missouri
Kansas State
Wisconsin
Indiana
Penn State
Purdue
Oklahoma

No Texas. No Rutgers. No Northwestern or Baylors. Real state schools. Geographical footprint and pride. Leave Texas out to dry.

KChiefs1 · 07-26-2021, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover

Great read on what the Big 10 should do in the Athletic

https://theathletic.com/2729861/2021...shared_article

The travel costs would be enormous.

KChiefs1 · 07-26-2021, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie

I have an idea. Make a new conference. Call it Midwest AF. Claim the AF doesn't mean AF, but we all know it really does.

Kansas
Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Oklahoma State
Illinois
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Missouri
Kansas State
Wisconsin
Indiana
Penn State
Purdue
Oklahoma

No Texas. No Rutgers. No Northwestern or Baylors. Real state schools. Geographical footprint and pride. Leave Texas out to dry.

No way Mizzou leaves the SEC.

KChiefs1 · 07-26-2021, 10:39 AM

Also one of Gabe’s thoughts.

Instead of pods & go with 8 team team divisions.

EAST:
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

WEST:
Mizzou
LSU
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Mississippi State

Sassy Squatch · 07-26-2021, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Also one of Gabe’s thoughts.

Instead of pods & go with 8 team team divisions.

EAST:
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

WEST:
Mizzou
LSU
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Mississippi State

Been seeing that idea all over the place, and for good reason.

Sassy Squatch · 07-26-2021, 10:43 AM

#SEC source: “The expectation” is for Texas and OU to play in SEC in 2022.

Last expansion:
— Texas A&M invited Sept 2011.
— Missouri invited November 2011
— Both played in SEC in 2012. https://t.co/uAp4P3V1hA
— Matt Hayes (@MattHayesCFB) July 26, 2021

FloridaMan88 · 07-26-2021, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle

#SEC source: “The expectation” is for Texas and OU to play in SEC in 2022.

Last expansion:
— Texas A&M invited Sept 2011.
— Missouri invited November 2011
— Both played in SEC in 2012. https://t.co/uAp4P3V1hA
— Matt Hayes (@MattHayesCFB) July 26, 2021

Texas A&M and Mizzou didn't have the Grant of Rights issue though.

Dante84 · 07-26-2021, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie

I have an idea. Make a new conference. Call it Midwest AF. Claim the AF doesn't mean AF, but we all know it really does.

Kansas
Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Oklahoma State
Illinois
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
~~Missouri~~
Kansas State
Wisconsin
Indiana
Penn State
Purdue
~~Oklahoma~~
+ Baylor
+ Iowa State

No way Oklahoma doesn't go to the SEC after pulling this stunt, and no way Mizzou leaves the SEC.

Add in the Baylor & Iowa State combo, and that might be something.

Eleazar · 07-26-2021, 10:55 AM

So how long until the four major conferences tell the NCAA that they are leaving?

kcclone · 07-26-2021, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar

So how long until the four major conferences tell the NCAA that they are leaving?

Shouldn't be long now. I'm sure that's been well planned out since the NIL has been coming down the pike.

KChiefs1 · 07-26-2021, 11:19 AM

Of all the colorful words and descriptions used to sum up Texas and Oklahoma within Big 12 circles over the past six days, here’s a creative one offered by an administrator: arsonists.

“They set the house on fire,” he said, “knowing there were eight of us in it.”

Prison Bitch · 07-26-2021, 11:19 AM

He sad

Following is a complete list of all the programs that have had more success after leaving @Big12Conference.
1.__________
2.__________
3.__________
4.__________

The list is identical for fans that have enjoyed it more.
— kevin kietzman (@kkhasissues) July 21, 2021

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-321821	Great read on what the Big 10 should do in the Athletic https://theathletic.com/2729861/2021...shared_article
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BWillie The End of All Your Dreams Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $391241	I have an idea. Make a new conference. Call it Midwest AF. Claim the AF doesn't mean AF, but we all know it really does. Kansas Nebraska Minnesota Iowa Oklahoma State Illinois Ohio State Michigan Michigan State Missouri Kansas State Wisconsin Indiana Penn State Purdue Oklahoma No Texas. No Rutgers. No Northwestern or Baylors. Real state schools. Geographical footprint and pride. Leave Texas out to dry.
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KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	Also one of Gabe’s thoughts. Instead of pods & go with 8 team team divisions. EAST: Alabama Auburn Georgia Florida Tennessee South Carolina Vanderbilt Kentucky WEST: Mizzou LSU Arkansas Oklahoma Texas Texas A&M Ole Miss Mississippi State __________________
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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $409655	#SEC source: “The expectation” is for Texas and OU to play in SEC in 2022. Last expansion: — Texas A&M invited Sept 2011. — Missouri invited November 2011 — Both played in SEC in 2012. https://t.co/uAp4P3V1hA — Matt Hayes (@MattHayesCFB) July 26, 2021
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07-26-2021, 11:19 AM	#8924
KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	Of all the colorful words and descriptions used to sum up Texas and Oklahoma within Big 12 circles over the past six days, here’s a creative one offered by an administrator: arsonists. “They set the house on fire,” he said, “knowing there were eight of us in it.” __________________
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Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	He sad Following is a complete list of all the programs that have had more success after leaving @Big12Conference. 1.__________ 2.__________ 3.__________ 4.__________ The list is identical for fans that have enjoyed it more. — kevin kietzman (@kkhasissues) July 21, 2021
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