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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 07-26-2021, 10:02 AM   #8911
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Gave DeArmond’s thoughts are exactly like mine. From PowerMizzou:

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1) I find myself this morning harkening back to simpler times. Times when the SEC had 14 teams, Texas and Oklahoma ran the Big 12 and college athletes played for the love of the game and didn't demand any of the millions of dollars they produced by playing football. It was a month ago. By August 1, Name, Image and Likeness will be a month old. Texas and Oklahoma will likely have informed the Big 12 they are done playing in the Big 12 (by 2025 at the latest, but in all likelihood a fair amount sooner) and the SEC will be on the verge of becoming college sports' version of the Death Star. I don't think it's overstating it to say that this month may end up being the most transformative month in the history of college sports. Whether you think the changes are good, bad or a little bit of both, there is no denying that what happens in July of 2021 will completely change the face of college football, and as a result, all of college sports, like few other months ever have.

That said, God do I love conference realignment. I've been checking various message boards every few minutes since Wednesday afternoon. If it was a drug, I'd be a full blown addict. I would empty my bank accounts to follow it. I love it all. It's been way too long since it's been a part of my life. Everything else is secondary for me these days.
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Old 07-26-2021, 10:08 AM   #8912
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Great read on what the Big 10 should do in the Athletic

https://theathletic.com/2729861/2021...shared_article
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Old 07-26-2021, 10:26 AM   #8913
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Why would the B1G want Iowa State? Especially when they’ve already got Iowa.
I don't quite get it either. Yeah, they are in the AAC or whatever for academics but ISU brings you no more eyeballs. Iowa owns every single market in Iowa, even Des Moines. Bringing ISU does nothing.

Mtn West time clones. You could always go to the Missouri Valley. That would be a fit geographically and then they play rival Drake.
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Old 07-26-2021, 10:32 AM   #8914
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I have an idea. Make a new conference. Call it Midwest AF. Claim the AF doesn't mean AF, but we all know it really does.

Kansas
Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Oklahoma State
Illinois
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Missouri
Kansas State
Wisconsin
Indiana
Penn State
Purdue
Oklahoma

No Texas. No Rutgers. No Northwestern or Baylors. Real state schools. Geographical footprint and pride. Leave Texas out to dry.
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Old 07-26-2021, 10:32 AM   #8915
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Great read on what the Big 10 should do in the Athletic

https://theathletic.com/2729861/2021...shared_article

The travel costs would be enormous.
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Old 07-26-2021, 10:33 AM   #8916
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I have an idea. Make a new conference. Call it Midwest AF. Claim the AF doesn't mean AF, but we all know it really does.

Kansas
Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Oklahoma State
Illinois
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Missouri
Kansas State
Wisconsin
Indiana
Penn State
Purdue
Oklahoma

No Texas. No Rutgers. No Northwestern or Baylors. Real state schools. Geographical footprint and pride. Leave Texas out to dry.

No way Mizzou leaves the SEC.
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Old 07-26-2021, 10:39 AM   #8917
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Also one of Gabe’s thoughts.

Instead of pods & go with 8 team team divisions.

EAST:
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
Kentucky


WEST:
Mizzou
LSU
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
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Old 07-26-2021, 10:40 AM   #8918
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Also one of Gabe’s thoughts.

Instead of pods & go with 8 team team divisions.

EAST:
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
Kentucky


WEST:
Mizzou
LSU
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Been seeing that idea all over the place, and for good reason.
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Old 07-26-2021, 10:43 AM   #8919
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Texas A&M and Mizzou didn't have the Grant of Rights issue though.
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I have an idea. Make a new conference. Call it Midwest AF. Claim the AF doesn't mean AF, but we all know it really does.

Kansas
Nebraska
Minnesota
Iowa
Oklahoma State
Illinois
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Missouri
Kansas State
Wisconsin
Indiana
Penn State
Purdue
Oklahoma
+ Baylor
+ Iowa State
No way Oklahoma doesn't go to the SEC after pulling this stunt, and no way Mizzou leaves the SEC.

Add in the Baylor & Iowa State combo, and that might be something.
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So how long until the four major conferences tell the NCAA that they are leaving?
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So how long until the four major conferences tell the NCAA that they are leaving?
Shouldn't be long now. I'm sure that's been well planned out since the NIL has been coming down the pike.
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Of all the colorful words and descriptions used to sum up Texas and Oklahoma within Big 12 circles over the past six days, here’s a creative one offered by an administrator: arsonists.

“They set the house on fire,” he said, “knowing there were eight of us in it.”
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