New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

KU should be in a basketball only conference.

Mizzouche should be in an Olympic-sports only conf.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by sedated

Can't link but has anyone else seen rumors the SEC will poach "major programs" to go to 24 teams? If true, has to be B1G

Not a chance its B1G teams. It will be ACC teams like Clemson.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Mizzouche should be in an Olympic-sports only conf.

Their wrasslin program is something though! Don’t even think they compete in the sec with their best sport. That’s the B1G

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Not a chance its B1G teams. It will be ACC teams like Clemson.

There's talk of Ohio St, Michigan, etc.

Soon Missouri will have about two teams they can annually compete with in a 20+ team league.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

To all of you MUron's, the SEC only took you at the time for 3 reasons, just coming off of several good football years, a few good BB seasons and most of all, you had a greater TV market in Missouri. The KC, STL, SPFLD, and Columbia/Jeff City far out numbered the. KC, TOPEKA & WICHITA
& Ks market. It was a numbers game with TV marketing.

"look morons, your program was accepted for these very good reasons"

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

There's talk of Ohio St, Michigan, etc.

Soon Missouri will have about two teams they can annually compete with in a 20+ team league.

You guys still believe some dumb **** from barstool?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

"look morons, your program was accepted for these very good reasons"


You guys still believe some dumb **** from barstool?

Yeah, it's clearly all about market share despite best efforts of some to act like it's about wins and losses or any other metric that plays into some fake superiority stance.. FFS, Rutgers and Kansas had the same football attendance figures at the gate pre-Covid.

It's "if/whenever the school is decent at football, we'll potentially capture this market"... and yeah, if Kansas wasn't a complete abomination in football, it would still only come down to market share and not some dick measuring contest between schools that are completely irrelevant on the national landscape outside of Kansas' spots on ESPN/CBS CBB and March Madness. "

I see the exact same thing in my industry... companies merge and get acquired and the people, current business, etc; is the last thing on their mind... it's 100% about capturing market share.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

There's talk of Ohio St, Michigan, etc.

Soon Missouri will have about two teams they can annually compete with in a 20+ team league.

Someone fell for a troll from Barstool

[Kiimo]

Man this crap is exactly the same as last time. MU fans saying KU is going to a mid major and then the Big 10 and PAC came calling because KU's basketball program as it turns out is rather important no matter what MU fans delude themselves into believing.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Man this crap is exactly the same as last time. MU fans saying KU is going to a mid major and then the Big 10 and PAC came calling because KU's basketball program as it turns out is rather important no matter what MU fans delude themselves into believing.

Again what move in any conference realignment has been made because of a basketball program? That isn’t even hating on KU, it’s just the truth.

If anything, you’re overrating how much a basketball program means in the grand scheme of things when it comes to realignment.

It’s down to football, TV markets, and AAU status. Nothing else matters.

[Prison Bitch]

Football doesn’t matter. Buttgers got in and they are KU’s only road win in like a decade. And that’s after they joined BIG

[Mosbonian]

Can someone point to the pages that have legit information to peruse so I don't have to wade thru this pissing contest?

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

Can someone point to the pages that have legit information to peruse so I don't have to wade thru this pissing contest?

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

Can someone point to the pages that have legit information to peruse so I don't have to wade thru this pissing contest?

There won’t be any legit information until Oklahoma and Texas serve the Big12 their notice. Which could happen as soon as tomorrow.

[RustShack]

The bulk of the rumors seem to be-

KU and Iowa State to the B1G

KSU, Okie, Tech, and ISU to the PAC.

Obviously Iowa State can’t join both lol.

West Virginia to ACC

Then there’s talk of the PAC just taking all the leftovers and going to 20.

[RustShack]

I’m thinking it goes to a P4, 16 schools each.