New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

KU would lose their domination in the B1G & would probably not be considered an elite program anymore.

I would take that bet!

Look, we know SEC is tops in football. It's the driving force behind this and with the possible super conferences forming, UT & OU are wanting to make the move.

To all of you MUron's, the SEC only took you at the time for 3 reasons, just coming off of several good football years, a few good BB seasons and most of all, you had a greater TV market in Missouri. The KC, STL, SPFLD, and Columbia/Jeff City far out numbered the. KC, TOPEKA & WICHITA
& Ks market. It was a numbers game with TV marketing.

How has your football & BB programs done W/L records since leaving the B12? Football I can understand, hard to win in the SEC. BB? Come on, the SEC has been a down conference for several years and you sucked in BB
It wasn't until the last 2 yrs you started to come around, I must say too, in a conference that has been less than stellar!

It's not your football or basketball programs ability to win that is attractive to the SEC, it's the TV market for viewership that is attractive to the SEC! If MU was in a less populated state like KS, Ne, SD,ND. etc. You would be left out, wouldn't have gotten an invite to the SEC.

[FD]

Texas A&M may have the biggest hissy fit of all time, but nobody really believes they will leave the SEC if Texas joins. Where would they go?

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Big 12 also gave us the greatest football player of all-time. So that was cool, too.

(Typical MU fan) But, but, but. MU has to be in here somewhere in the top 10!

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by FD

Texas A&M may have the biggest hissy fit of all time, but nobody really believes they will leave the SEC if Texas joins. Where would they go?

They are not leaving! Just winning about having to play UT and OU again in the players rich TX markets.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

You have either have to be attempting to be pulling somebody's leg here, naive, or just plain stupid!

Many of those 14 titles won or shared were when the B12 was either the top BB conference or well within the top 3 of the NCAA.

You can spin this any way you wish to suit your personal preference.But to do so is either pulling somebody's leg, ,naive or just plain stupid.

Cracks me up that people continue to treat the Big 12 like it’s the WCC. Really easy way to identify an amateur or a troll. Or, most likely, an amateur troll.

The only league that’s been clearly better than the Big 12 over the last decade or two is the ACC. And even the ACC’s been below the Big 12 the last few years.

KU pulled off that streak because they’ve been the most consistent program in basketball and because Self is a master. No other school was consistently good enough to have been able to pull that off. Not even Duke. They all have the occasional 8 seed or NIT team or even a losing record. A top 15ish 4 seed is as bad as it gets for Self. And that’s once a decade when he has devastating injuries.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Big 12 also gave us the greatest football player of all-time. So that was cool, too.

Rep

And he goes to AFH for games !

[Titty Meat]

You all have a very weird standard for who is and who isnt relevant

[Eleazar]

I don’t know why I would care about this from a Mizzou perspective as some do, other than it’s interesting to watch the Big 12 finally break apart in mid air.

I’m sure the b1g or someone will take Kansas. Although one wonders if they could dominate that conference in modern times they way they have the Big 12, they at least bring something valuable. Let’s face it, football drives everything and there aren’t any marquee schools looking for homes anymore. If you’re going to fill the conference out to an even number you may as well get a top school in the second tier sport.

I wonder if the Big 12’s wreckage will end up merging with another mid major conference when it’s all said and done.

[Dartgod]

Oh look! Another college athletics thread has turned into a Kansas/Missouri pissing contest.

*yawn*

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Oh look! Another college athletics thread has turned into a Kansas/Missouri pissing contest.

*yawn*

We havent had 1 of these in a long long time. Embrace the nostalgia

[Mizzou_8541]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Fun while it lasted. Last decade were great for KU. I’ll miss the League’s hellacious athletes, neverending drama, and the awesome hoops games.



We were 8th in profits (USA Today) without drawing any football fans at all.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Prove me wrong Mizzouche

You provided the screenshot of a MS Excel 2011 table. Burden of proof is on you.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

You all have a very weird standard for who is and who isnt relevant

I prefer to keep it simple. Relevance = winning.

[Mizzou_8541]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Prove me wrong Mizzouche

Also, you’re like the Mitch Holthus of nicknames. Most are embarrassing for him. This one I’ve seen you use a few times with no reaction. I just sort of laugh…Mizzouche. Cuts deep, lol.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

I prefer to keep it simple. Relevance = winning.

Where do you draw the line with that? Just winning titles or playoff appearances? If so theres only a handful of schools that match that criteria. Constantly winning 9 or 10 games? Then schools like Iowa and Wisconsin are relevant. I think theres alot more that goes into it than just winning.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

I would take that bet!

Look, we know SEC is tops in football. It's the driving force behind this and with the possible super conferences forming, UT & OU are wanting to make the move.

To all of you MUron's, the SEC only took you at the time for 3 reasons, just coming off of several good football years, a few good BB seasons and most of all, you had a greater TV market in Missouri. The KC, STL, SPFLD, and Columbia/Jeff City far out numbered the. KC, TOPEKA & WICHITA
& Ks market. It was a numbers game with TV marketing.

How has your football & BB programs done W/L records since leaving the B12? Football I can understand, hard to win in the SEC. BB? Come on, the SEC has been a down conference for several years and you sucked in BB
It wasn't until the last 2 yrs you started to come around, I must say too, in a conference that has been less than stellar!

It's not your football or basketball programs ability to win that is attractive to the SEC, it's the TV market for viewership that is attractive to the SEC! If MU was in a less populated state like KS, Ne, SD,ND. etc. You would be left out, wouldn't have gotten an invite to the SEC.

Yep. And if it happened today vs a decade ago, they wouldn’t get invited.

The only advantage they have vs KU is being located in a larger market. Which is a very strange thing to flex about. Hey, we never win, but there’s a lot of people in St Louis!

It’s Texas-esque douchebaggery.