Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 582

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-04-2013, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

Eh, the Yankee's offense isn't all that, outside of Cano and to a lesser extent, Soriano. Just isolate Cano, keep him controlled, you should win the game. It's pretty simple as that.

Uh, we're talking about the White Sox here.

ROYC75 · 08-04-2013, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman

The more I think about it, the more I want Cleveland to beat Detroit this week. I understand that the Royals have a better shot at the wild card (4.5 GB) than the division (7.5 GB). But we have to keep in mind that all the wild card guarantees is the ridiculously stupid one-game playoff, which ultimately means they could battle for six months, only to see all hopes dashed in one single game.

Let's shoot for the division.

THIS ! JUST KEEP WINNING, ALL ELSE WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF!

Deberg_1990 · 08-04-2013, 09:41 PM

Royals are 47-32 if you exclude May

8-20 in May

ROYC75 · 08-04-2013, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Royals are 47-32 if you exclude May

8-20 in May

Just a .500 May and we are just a game or 2 out!

Coach · 08-04-2013, 10:21 PM

Plenty of baseball to be played in August and September.

ROYC75 · 08-04-2013, 10:24 PM

August is our position month. We must have a good August to be in contention, have to play 700 to 800 ball up to the series with Detroit on Aug. 15 - 18, 5 games in 4 days. Cleveland will be at Oakland, basically we have to be within 2 games of Detroit by then and go at least 3 - 2, nothing worst than 2 - 3 to stay in this race for the division.

Detroit is on the road for the next 10 games while we are home, we must make up at least 4 games. 3 of them could come by Cleveland winning and who cares who wins the 4th game between them if Cleveland wins 3 in a row. With this, we must sweep the Twinkies and then continue winning against the Red Sox. Do this and the 5 game set in Detroit is pivotal, keeps us in the division even though we still have games with Cleveland & Detroit left later in the schedule.

The confidence is flowing, continue winning and we can take them, we falter now and it's over with our schedule.

ROYC75 · 08-04-2013, 11:35 PM

Another reason I say shoot for the division......

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...skeptics-wrong

tk13 · 08-04-2013, 11:36 PM

Just saw that. Royals are the top story on ESPN.com... in August. I was going to say I wonder how long it's been since that's happened. Then I realized the last time was probably before the internet.

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-04-2013, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Another reason I say shoot for the division......

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...skeptics-wrong

Nice.

AussieChiefsFan · 08-05-2013, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Another reason I say shoot for the division......

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...skeptics-wrong

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

Just saw that. Royals are the top story on ESPN.com... in August. I was going to say I wonder how long it's been since that's happened. Then I realized the last time was probably before the internet.

Ya.

Quote:

Here's how bad the Kansas City Royals have been during the wild-card era: They would need to win 430 consecutive games just get back to .500 since 1995.

But seriously, I'm looking forward to every game right now, it's amazing.

BlackHelicopters · 08-05-2013, 03:24 AM

Just read the 4 letter .com article. Relevant in August is nice.

AussieChiefsFan · 08-05-2013, 04:18 AM

Overnight standings:

Division:

Wild Card:

Archie F. Swin · 08-05-2013, 05:21 AM

I noticed the 2003 Royals hit 162 home runs. I guess we had to to overcome the dodgy pitching that year.

AussieChiefsFan · 08-05-2013, 06:14 AM

After this series with the Twins we'll have about a 3 week stretch of playing against better teams. After that though, it should be smooth sailing for about a month.

Archie F. Swin · 08-05-2013, 06:23 AM

So, I guess we'd prefer to have Cleveland win their series against Detroit?

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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08-04-2013, 10:24 PM	#8721
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $2337400	August is our position month. We must have a good August to be in contention, have to play 700 to 800 ball up to the series with Detroit on Aug. 15 - 18, 5 games in 4 days. Cleveland will be at Oakland, basically we have to be within 2 games of Detroit by then and go at least 3 - 2, nothing worst than 2 - 3 to stay in this race for the division. Detroit is on the road for the next 10 games while we are home, we must make up at least 4 games. 3 of them could come by Cleveland winning and who cares who wins the 4th game between them if Cleveland wins 3 in a row. With this, we must sweep the Twinkies and then continue winning against the Red Sox. Do this and the 5 game set in Detroit is pivotal, keeps us in the division even though we still have games with Cleveland & Detroit left later in the schedule. The confidence is flowing, continue winning and we can take them, we falter now and it's over with our schedule. __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
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08-04-2013, 11:35 PM	#8722
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $2337400	Another reason I say shoot for the division...... http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...skeptics-wrong __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
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08-05-2013, 06:23 AM	#8730
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