*****The Josh Simmons Thread*****

[Dante84]

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— Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) April 25, 2025

Several teams agree: Josh Simmons had best tape of any OT last year. And they aren't very concerned with recovery on the torn patella tendon. More of the concern is maturity/character. But he's going to the ideal, veteran-laden place.

— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) April 25, 2025

the #chiefs get LT Josh Simmons out of Ohio State. If Simmons didn't suffer a torn patellar tendon he would have been the first tackle off the board. I had one team tell me he was the most athletic and talented tackle tape they watched. There are some maturity issues, but this…

— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs have selected #OSU OT Josh Simmons at No. 32, a player recovering nicely from a torn patellar tendon. They are comfortable with his rehab and did endless homework on it. https://t.co/awdb0JhPed

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs are selecting Ohio State LT Josh Simmons at No. 32 to close out Round 1.

A key addition to bolster the offensive line in front of Patrick Mahomes. pic.twitter.com/oBx2CjzmCe

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) April 25, 2025

[Palangi]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Why would it?

I had a couple wholly benign posts with a red thumb, figured I'd see why.

Otherwise it's draft season. Red thumbs are to be expected. Scurry along now tiger - you have posts to vote on.

You brought it up. That’s how I know it tickled you butt.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Palangi

The annoying thing will be, yes, they will scream “I told you so”. But if he hits they will love it and excuse him as an outlier and act like they weren’t jack asses the last 10 hours.
The god complex of some here is outrageous. I have 50,000 posts so I know everything and you can’t argue with me.

If the thing that is most likely to happen happens, the obvious thing, that's not anyone having a God complex. It's just was is most likely to happen happening.

They annoying thing is someone buying a lottery ticket to pay for retirement actually winning and then acting like it was a good decision. It's not. No one is acting like a jackass that doesn't normally act like a jackass. It's just a career ending injury that we spent a high draft pick on. This isn't controversial - it's obvious.

And it's not just the compensation - it's the risk. If we'd have traded up into the top 15 for a LT I'd have been fine. It's the risk and this specific injury.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I always enjoy this.

Guys get specifically called out, often by name, and when they respond - in a public discussion forum - this is the result.

Okay fella. Keep on pissing in your shoes and wondering why your socks are wet.

I'm not the one with 50-60 posts in a thread, pounding my chest about how smart I am...simply respond, and let it go. Don't keep trotting out the same tired trope...only paraphrasing a previous post you made in the same thread--in a public forum. And then pretend not to be butt hurt by the dreaded red thumb in a NFL draft thread. Drat, curses!

Relax, man....don't worry, be happy. Go take a gummy or two, or whatever takes you to your happy place.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Of course if he "can't move" he's going to suck.

And you understand that almost everyone with this injury has these flare ups, right? At some point he may be old Meat Roaf, right? That could happen week 2 of this season.

It's not an ACL that's just fixed and then it's good. This is a risk for the rest of his career.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

The most hilarious thing thing about that video, is how the armchair general manager wannabes here along with the "expert" Phoenix University/DeVry PHD "medical staff" here...pretend to know so, so much more about Simmons than Brown, Simms, Reid, Veatch, and the entire Chief's staff who are paid handsomely to make these decisions.

Of course, if Simmons doesn't pan out--they'll be screaming "we told you so!" regarding a proposition that involves about a 50% or less hit rate to begin with. Priceless!

EDIT: As for Moore's contract--it's Clark's $$$ and Veatch obviously had his "permission"...what are we whining about? Gosh, DEPTH, on the OLine...the travesty!?!

lol

Dude, I don’t need to be a doctor to read a research conducted by doctors who are orthopaedic surgeons, that passed the standard required to get published in PubMed. Neither do you. I need to be able to read and pay attention to what I’m reading.

I really hope I have no need to ever say “I told you so!” About this pick. Because that’s good for the team I root for.

This board would be pretty ****ing boring if no one ever expressed disagreement with something the coach or staff did.

[Palangi]

Originally Posted by Rausch

And you understand that almost everyone with this injury has these flare ups, right? At some point he may be old Meat Roaf, right? That could happen week 2 of this season.

It's not an ACL that's just fixed and then it's good. This is a risk for the rest of his career.

Doesn’t everyone take a risk stepping out on the field?

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

The most hilarious thing thing about that video, is how the armchair general manager wannabes here along with the "expert" Phoenix University/DeVry PHD "medical staff" here...pretend to know so, so much more about Simmons than Brown, Simms, Reid, Veatch, and the entire Chief's staff who are paid handsomely to make these decisions.

Of course, if Simmons doesn't pan out--they'll be screaming "we told you so!" regarding a proposition that involves about a 50% or less hit rate to begin with. Priceless!

EDIT: As for Moore's contract--it's Clark's $$$ and Veatch obviously had his "permission"...what are we whining about? Gosh, DEPTH, on the OLine...the travesty!?!

Here is who is teaching your kids

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Did we?

If we'd have overpayed for the Raven's tackle or traded for Tunsil I'd care less because there'd be a dependable fall back plan. I don't feel like a career back up is a dependable fall back plan.

That's a pretty disingenuous way to frame the situation.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Rausch

And you understand that almost everyone with this injury has these flare ups, right? At some point he may be old Meat Roaf, right? That could happen week 2 of this season.

It's not an ACL that's just fixed and then it's good. This is a risk for the rest of his career.

Yeah - I mean someone said "We'll know a lot in training camp..."

No we won't. Not good OR bad.

A) I truly hope nobody is just expecting the kid to come in and take the job and will shit on him if he doesn't.

B) Let's say he does -- the risk of reinjury or long-term compensatory injuries because of this issue are extremely high.

No matter WHAT happens, I don't think you can even start to write this story until September of 2026. I damn sure won't be dancing on any graves if it comes to that. The only thing that might be worth mentioning might be short-term opportunity cost but even that's an open conversation for quite some time.

All we can do now is wait. And hope. Probably for longer than any of us would really like.

[ChiefsCountry]

If Denver or the Raiders made this same pick, the tone would be totally different about his injury history.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by BossChief

The work they put into Simmons during the same timeframe they signed Moore disagrees with that, doesn’t it?

Veatch specifically said in his interview...he ONLY asked Rosen "you looking for Offense or Defense." When Howie said, Defense--Brett said, deal! I just don't get why some seem to think they know better than the staff who closely scrutinized Simons prior to pulling the trigger?

No one is arguing there isn't a risk, and he could be another wasted pick--but every team has those. It's not an exact science. Do you due diligence, and don't look back. That's all anyone can ask.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Rice
Worthy
Creed
Smith
Gray
Kingsley
Simmons

Very nice young core around Pat.

Let's add a RB and/or a TE/WR today.

this a supposedly a deep draft. Mocks think we can get the Ohio State RB in the 3rd.

DT and WR in the 2nd and RB in the 3rd.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Here is who is teaching your kids

Dude...talk about axe to grind. No substantive disagreement, just insults. Get a life, man.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Rausch

And you understand that almost everyone with this injury has these flare ups, right? At some point he may be old Meat Roaf, right? That could happen week 2 of this season.

It's not an ACL that's just fixed and then it's good. This is a risk for the rest of his career.

You 100% don’t know that.

None of us are privy to his medical specifics…so we don’t have to result in panic and doom.

Rick, Andy and Brett are, though…and they gambled on what they saw.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Veatch specifically said in his interview...he ONLY asked Rosen "you looking for Offense or Defense." When Howie said, Defense--Brett said, deal! I just don't get why some seem to think they know better than the staff who closely scrutinized Simons prior to pulling the trigger?

No one is arguing there isn't a risk, and he could be another wasted pick--but every team has those. It's not an exact science. Do you due diligence, and don't look back. That's all anyone can ask.

I already spoke to this.

Either Veach was willing to go back FURTHER using the leverage of a trade back to convince the Eagles to move up.

Or he was bluffing -- in which case he had to consider the possibility Rosen was as well.

In either instance, he was taking on additional risk. And just as I said with the Moore pick when everyone was hot and bothered by that one -- if he truly LOVED that player, he never takes on that risk. Not for the return of a 5th round pick.

Y'all demand omniscience to have these conversations. I simply ask that you exhibit some common sense.