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Mr. Laz · 02:57 PM

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

duncan_idaho · 05-11-2010, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

I noticed the commissioner of the Big 11 is denying this story today. Any bets its just posturing?

All that Delany denied was that official offers had been extended.

This deal is still going to happen. But it will be announced on the Big Ten's timetable...

|Zach| · 05-11-2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

The ump tossed Hillman because his argument was that the Big XII will be better off replacing Missouri with Louisville.

Bwahahahaha

**Saul Good** · 05-11-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

Lies. The only way this happens is if Texas leaves.

Why in the hell would Texas stay? If the Big XII, nearly bereft of major media markets outside of Texas as it is, loses Omaha, half of KC, Saint Louis, and probably Denver, they will have zilch to offer Texas.

Texas could go independent and sign a bigger television contract than what's left of the entire Big XII and keep 100% of the revenue. Asking Texas to stay in a conference that has been gutted would be like asking them to join the Mountain West. It's just not happening.

**DeezNutz** · 05-11-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

The ump tossed Hillman because his argument was that the Big XII will be better off replacing Missouri with Louisville.

KU fan just raised another banner.

**BigRedChief** · 05-12-2010, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Why in the hell would Texas stay? If the Big XII, nearly bereft of major media markets outside of Texas as it is, loses Omaha, half of KC, Saint Louis, and probably Denver, they will have zilch to offer Texas.

Texas could go independent and sign a bigger television contract than what's left of the entire Big XII and keep 100% of the revenue. Asking Texas to stay in a conference that has been gutted would be like asking them to join the Mountain West. It's just not happening.

You would see the Pac-10 and Big 12 combine. Texas gets the Cali market and access to those recruits.

KChiefs1 · 05-12-2010, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Does ANYONE really think Dan "The Boob" Beebe is the man for that job?

Frazod · 05-12-2010, 06:26 PM

Here's the latest:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp

Posted: Wednesday May 12, 2010 3:44PM; Updated: Wednesday May 12, 2010 6:00PM

Mizzou will consider joining Big Ten

Story Highlights
School officials have reportedly met to discuss interest in joining Big Ten

Missouri's name has repeatedly surfaced in Big Ten expansion rumors

Chancellor Deaton: Missouri will "always do what is best for the university"

COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) -- From geographic proximity to its membership in the prestigious Association of American Universities, Missouri in many ways is a natural fit for an expanded Big Ten Conference.

Need another reason? Try 13 million -- that's about how many extra dollars Missouri could expect to earn annually from a conference with its own television network and a revenue sharing model that distributes equal payments to all 11 members.

STAPLES: Missouri and Big Ten are perfect match

The Big Ten insists that no decisions have been made on expansion -- and no offers extended, contrary to a Kansas City radio station's report earlier this week. But Missouri isn't waiting idly for its prospective suitor to make up its mind.

The Kansas City Star reported that athletics director Mike Alden, Missouri system president Gary Forsee and Columbia campus chancellor Brady Deaton met last week to discuss the school's potential interest in leaving the Big 12 Conference. A campus spokeswoman declined to confirm the meeting, referring to a previously issued statement that the school "will not respond to speculation about conference realignment."

At the same time, school leaders have never outright rejected the notion of Big Ten membership, offering public statements with plenty of room for conjecture.
On Tuesday, Deaton told The Associated Press that Missouri will "always do what is best for the university."
"You've got every major conference looking at how they should reposition, or if they should reposition," Deaton said. "I don't think all the benefits and costs are known."
Sports economist Andrew Zimbalist suggested that expansion by the Big Ten or other power conferences is a near certainty.

"There's going to be some merger and acquisition activity," said Zimbalist, a Smith College economics professor. "That's a done deal ... The dominant conferences would like to aggregate."

To that end, the Big 12 and other major conferences are not waiting for the Big Ten decision, which commissioner Jim Delany has suggested could still be another year away.

Most of the Big 12's athletic directors met with their Pac-10 colleagues at that league's annual meeting in Phoenix last week. Among the topics: a TV-driven alliance that would offer broadcast partners the chance to lock up most of the major media markets west of the Mississippi.

Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott said the league has also discussed a partnership with the Atlantic Coast Conference. And it has hired the Los Angeles-based Creative Artists Agency as a consultant to explore potential media deals.

Still, Scott isn't convinced that conference expansion -- whether by the Big Ten, a weakened Big 12 or other leagues fighting for relevance and survival -- is inevitable.

"From our perspective, expansion is not a fait accompli," he said. "I haven't heard a compelling argument for why one conference expanding means other conferences have to be bigger too."

The Big Ten announced late last year it is considering adding at least one school, and possibly more, to add a league championship game in football and broaden the reach of its cable television network.

The conference pays its members an estimated $22 million annually. Missouri, by contrast, received about $8.4 million from the Big 12 in 2007, the most recent year for which tax records are available.

Missouri's flirtation with the Big Ten isn't its first effort to upgrade its dance partner. In the early '90s, with the Big Eight Conference on the verge of collapse and the Big Ten also talking expansion, Missouri pushed to join the 114-year-old league. A group of state business leaders even formed a lobbying group to boost its efforts.

While Missouri is a charter member of the Big 12, which was founded in 1996 when the Big Eight schools added four members of the defunct Southwest Conference, dissatisfaction with the conference has been growing steadily in Columbia.

The conference's postseason selection process allows bowl game partners to select any eligible team, regardless of win-loss records or head-to-head results.
For the past three years, Missouri has been passed over by more prestigious bowl games that selected teams it had either beaten or which ranked below the Tigers in conference standings. Most notably, the Orange Bowl selected Kansas as its BCS at-large choice over Missouri in 2007 even though the Tigers beat the Jayhawks weeks earlier.

Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon, an avid sports fan, is among the most outspoken supporters of a Missouri move to the Big Ten. He cites the league's academic excellence, noting that each of its 11 members, like Missouri, are AAU members.

"We should look at it if it's offered," he told reporters Wednesday.

Zimbalist called Big Ten membership a step up in prestige and national recognition for both Missouri and Nebraska, which has also been mentioned as a possible expansion target. Rutgers, Pittsburgh, Syracuse and Notre Dame are among the other schools seen as potential additions.

"Going to the Big Ten is a step up in branding, it's a step up in reputation," he said.

Leaving the Big 12 wouldn't come without a cost. Under conference rules, Missouri could have left without penalty had it given the league two years notice by June 2009.
Now, a "breaching member" wanting to withdraw would owe the Big 12 a payment equal to 80 percent of its two-year conference revenues if notice is given by June 30. The penalty increases to 90 percent before the end of the year or 100 percent is notice isn't given until 2011.
Further discussions of conference expansion could take place next week when Big Ten athletic directors meet in Chicago. The Big 12 holds its spring meetings the first week in June in Kansas City.

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**KcMizzou** · 05-12-2010, 06:28 PM

Anybody hear Dan Beebe on 810 today? Pretty interesting interview.

http://www.810whb.com/podcasts

**Saul Good** · 05-12-2010, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

You would see the Pac-10 and Big 12 combine. Texas gets the Cali market and access to those recruits.

Texas doesn't need California recruits.

**Bugeater** · 05-12-2010, 06:33 PM

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Now, a "breaching member" wanting to withdraw would owe the Big 12 a payment equal to 80 percent of its two-year conference revenues if notice is given by June 30.

Ouch.

Sure-Oz · 05-12-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Anybody hear Dan Beebe on 810 today? Pretty interesting interview.

http://www.810whb.com/podcasts

I didn't hear it but heard a little about KK saying he was calling out Nebraska an MU not being good Big 12 teams or something like that?

Frazod · 05-12-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Anybody hear Dan Beebe on 810 today? Pretty interesting interview.

http://www.810whb.com/podcasts

I wouldn't think he could talk with a Longhorn dick in his mouth. That's impressive.

And no, I don't care what he says about anything. He's as dead to me as Neil Smith.

**KcMizzou** · 05-12-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I didn't hear it but heard a little about KK saying he was calling out Nebraska an MU not being good Big 12 teams or something like that?

I didn't get that from it.

Sure-Oz · 05-12-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

I didn't get that from it.

Can you summarize, cause i was just hearing what KK said...

**KcMizzou** · 05-12-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Can you summarize, cause i was just hearing what KK said...

You should listen to the podcast.

But, I will say... nothing he said made me think even he believes Mizzou and Nebraska aren't going.

He's got a little bit of that "If you're not with us, you're against us." attitude.

As for the unequal revenue sharing, he's basically saying "Look, this is the deal you signed up for."

In the end, I think he knows they're gone... and they'll do whatever they can to plug the holes, and make sure they keep Texas happy.

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