Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs - Page 58

**Rain Man** · 11:30 AM

The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.

Original post: You can ignore this now.

Spoiler!

Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)

Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.

Teams As Of Post #113:

Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259)

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.)

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.)

**Rain Man** · 08-31-2021, 08:25 PM

My rookie report is a mixed bag, but if I can get three Week 1 starters I think it's a good draft.

#2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers) - Looking really good, likely starter in Carolina.
#2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars) - Looking really good. The Jags cut a veteran safety, so he may be starting.
#4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens) - Not sure what's happening here. He got traded before the season. I think he'll get playing time, but probably not as a starter.
#5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots) - Injured. Not sure I'll see him play this year.
#6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts) - Injured. May show up on the Colts' roster midseason.
#6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears) - Got cut. Maybe he'll land on the practice squad. I'll keep him around to give him at least a year to develop.
#7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs) - Likely first-ballot hall of famer. Week 1 starter.
#7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars). I knew he was hurt when I drafted him. I may not see him on the field this year.
#7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns) - High-risk pick, which I knew going in. He got cut. I'll keep him around for a year to see if he lands on a practice squad.

**Rain Man** · 08-31-2021, 08:30 PM

My cuts:

First, I lost two guys in free agency.

Sammy Watkins
Damien Wilson

Then I cut these guys.

Derrick Gore
Prince Tega Wanogho
Michael Jordan
Andrew Wylie
Ben Niemann
Maurice Hurst
Mike Pennel
Jordan Ta'amu
Jerick McKinnon
Kelvin Harmon (Redskins)
Antonio Callaway
Ricky Seals-Jones
Mitchell Schwartz
Tyrell Crosby (Lions)
Keliechi Osemele
Bryan Witzmann
Kyle Long
Austin Reiter, OL
Tedric Thompson
Antonio Hamilton
Dicaprio Bootle

I'm strong enough on the OL that I cut a starting guard in Michael Jordan.

I hated to cut Niemann, Hurst, and Pennel, but I had no choice.

And by the way, I declined the trade for Mike Hughes. I'm deep at cornerback.

Kellerfox · 08-31-2021, 09:52 PM

I’ll try to tackle my roster & cuts this weekend.

Quick analysis on my draft picks… every single pick made their teams initial 53-man roster.

#2-58 Carlos Basham Jr., DE, Wake Forrest (Bills)

I had hoped he would be an immediate hit and wow in camp / preseason, but unfortunately he has somewhat been lost behind a few other pass rushers on the Bills roster. I don’t expect a lot of production this year. Still, camp reports still point to potential.

#2-63 Creed Humphrey, OC, Oklahoma (Chiefs)

Angry my physician team for not disclosing that Humphrey is a South Paw, but happy to have landed a perennial pro bowler.

#4-144 Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis (Eagles)

The Eagles are very excited about Gainwell and so am I. Gainwell should be their primary pass catching back right off the bat, and will inevitably take over when Miles Sanders has his inevitable season ending injury. I expect Gainwell to have an Antonio Gibson - sequel rookie season if all goes to plan.

#5-162 Frank Darby, WR, Arizona State (Falcons)

Made the 53 man roster, but didn’t wow anyone. I have a tough decision ahead on whether to keep Darby, or roll the dice on a Fountain.

#6-208 Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College (Packers)

I haven’t seen much of McDuffie, I think he may have been injured for much of camp. He did make the Packers roster, and they are thin at LB, so hoping it all comes together mid season.

#6-221 Tay Gowan, CB, Central Florida (Cardinals)

Tay was awful in the preseason, but made the Cards 53 man roster as one of only 4 CBs because they have jack shit at the position. Barring a trade, Gowan will see significant time. Best hope hard lessons turn into serious growth.

#6-226 Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee (Chiefs)

Rainman covered it - locking down a future HOFer in the 6th round = VALUE

#6-228 Khyris Tonga, DT, BYU (Bears)

Made the Bears roster, impressed in camp, probably won’t see much playing time.

kccrow · 09-02-2021, 07:48 PM

Rookie Report

I still feel like this could be a solid class for me with Jenkins, Adebo, Perkins, Nixon, and Smith looking good early on. That said, counting on Jenkins to be my LT in what could be a redshirt year for him after surgery is going to leave me with a huge hole for 2021.

1-31 | OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State (6'6" 317)
Jenkins ended up on IR with his back surgery. We'll see if he returns in 2021, but this puts me in a rough spot at LT.

2-63 | CB Paulson Adebo, Stanford (6'1" 198)
From everything I've seen and read, Adebo looks good and should see significant snaps this year. Hey may not get the starting gig over Crawley out of the gate, but it sounds like he will soon.

3-94 | ER Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma (6'3" 253)
Perkins had a pretty good camp and was taking time from Winovich as a rotational pass rusher. He could develop into an asset quickly but he probably doesn't start with Judon and Van Noy there unless Bill changes to a 3-4 more frequently.

4-136 | OT Josh Ball, Marshall (6'7" 308)
Ball ended up on IR and had a high ankle early so I really have no idea what I'll have here, if anything.

4-144 | DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (6'3" 313)
Nixon had a good camp and is listed as 2nd string. He should get quite a few snaps based on what I've seen and heard.

5-162 | TE Noah Gray, Duke (6'3" 240)
I'm a bit more worried about this pick after a lackluster pre-season than I was in minicamp but there's time.

6-208 | LB Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College (6'1" 227)
McDuffie made the roster in Green Bay, but he's 3rd string and it's hard to put a finger on what I have here.

6-221 | OG Trey Smith, Tennessee (6'5" 321)
Smith looks like a stud, which we kind of expected out of a 1st Round-caliber player that fell.

6-226 | WR Tre Nixon, Central Florida (6'0" 187)
Nixon missed the cut but the Pats kept him on the practice squad. I may have missed on a traits-based shot in the dark.

6-228 | RB Gerrid Doaks, Cincinnati (5'11" 228)
I was really excited about Doaks but he missed the cut in Miami and ended up on their PS. I may not give up on him just yet though, given he had a pretty solid preseaon finale.

kccrow · 09-02-2021, 08:54 PM

2021 ROSTER

OFFENSE (25)

QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC)
QB - Chad Henne (FA/20 - KC)

RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB)
RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA)
RB - Jerick McKinnon (FA/21 - KC)

FB - Michael Burton (FA/21 - KC)

TE - Travis Kelce
TE - Noah Gray (#5-162 - KC)
TE - Blake Bell (FA/21 - KC)

WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN)
WR - Gabriel Davis (#4-125/20 - BUF)
WR - Donovan Peoples-Jones (#5-177/20 - CLE)
WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE)
WR - Daurice Fountain (FA/21 - KC)
WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN)

OT - Eric Fisher (IND)
OT - Teven Jenkins (#1-31/21 - CHI)
OT - Josh Ball (#4-136/21 - DAL)
OT - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC)

LG - Joe Thuney (FA/21 - KC)
RG - Trey Smith (#6-221/21 - KC)
OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif

OC - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO)
OC - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - NYJ)
OC - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL)

DEFENSE (25)

DL - Ross Blacklock (#1-32/20 - HOU)
DL - Justin Madubuike (#2-64/20 - BAL)
DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - DAL)
DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - MIA)
DL - Tershawn Wharton (UDFA/20 - KC)
DL - Jarran Reed (FA/21 - KC)
DL - Daviyon Nixon (#4-144/21 - CAR)

ER - Justin Houston (BAL)
ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - NE)
ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG)
ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR)
ER - Ronnie Perkins (#3-94/21 - NE)

LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC)
LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS)
LB - Logan Wilson (#2-63/20 - CIN)
LB - Isaiah McDuffie (#6-208 - GB)

CB - L'Jarius Sneed (#4-138/20 - KC)
CB - Paulson Adebo (#2-63/21 - NO)
CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ)
CB - Mike Hughes (t-MIN/21)
CB - DeAndre Baker (FA/20 - KC)

DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN)
DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC)
DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF)
DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN)

SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC)
P Tommy Townsend (UDFA/20 - KC)
LS James Winchester

Offseason Trades
Trade OL Yasir Durant to NE for 2022 7th
Trade 2022 6th to MIN for CB Mike Hughes and 2022 7th

Cuts
WR - Antonio Calloway (FA/20 - KC)
TE - Nick Keizer (FA/20 - KC)
CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - FA)
CB - Thakarius Keyes (#7-226/20 - KC)
ER - Taco Charlton (FA/20 - KC)
OT - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19)
DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF)
OG - Kyle Long (FA/21 - KC)
OC - Austin Blythe (FA/21 - KC)
OL - Mitchell Schwartz (FA)
WR - Tre Nixon (#6-226/21 - NE)
ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - NO)
RB - Gerrid Doaks (#6-226/21 - MIA)

Notes: Parting with 6th and 7th rounders early into their careers doesn't bother me but having to release 2nd and 3rd rounders do. I simply have too many defensive linemen to hang onto Phillips who has done nothing but regress post-injury. K-Pass is also a casualty as I'd rather hang onto the potential of oft-injured Okorowonko than limited productivity, hoping this is the year he gets out of the tub.

That said I'm not too disappointed in the roster sans my ability to rework the tackle position. I'm hanging onto Fisher as a last-ditch effort of hope that I'll have a left tackle at some point this season. Meanwhile, I'm hanging onto Wylie over Blythe just to have a RT at all. To be honest, I thought about hanging onto Schwartz as well in hopes he signs somewhere... Things are thin around here.

Speaking of bad luck with losing players to injury, I've also lost 'Bisi Johnson for the season with a torn ACL, but I literally have nobody but a practice squad player in Nixon to push him off the team. I'd rather hang on for next year with the kid than hope Nixon pushes his way into the league.

Kellerfox · 09-04-2021, 10:11 AM

Tacoma Trash Pandas 2021 Roster

QB:
Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs)
Chad Henne (Chiefs)

RB:
Clyde Edwards-Helaire(Chiefs)
Kenneth Gainwell (Eagles)
Jerrick McKinnon (Chiefs)
Darrel Williams (Chiefs)

FB:
Michael Burton (Chiefs)

WR:
Tyreek Hill (Chiefs)
Mecole Hardman (Chiefs)
Demarcus Robinson (Chiefs)
Frank Darby (Falcons)
Byron Pringle (Chiefs)
Daurice Fountain (Chiefs)

TE:
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Blake Bell (Chiefs)
Jody Fortson (Chiefs)

OT:
Orlando Brown Jr. (Chiefs)
Lucas Niang (Chiefs)
Mike Remmers (Chiefs)

OG:
Joe Thuney (Chiefs)
Trey Smith (Chiefs - Drafted)
Andrew Wylie (Chiefs)

OC:
Creed Humphrey (Chiefs - Drafted)
Austin Blythe (Chiefs)
Nick Allegretti (Chiefs)

———————-

DT:
Jarran Reed (Chiefs)
Khalen Saunders (Chiefs)
Derrick Nnadi (Chiefs)
Khyris Tonga (Bears)
Tershawn Wharton (Chiefs)

DE:
Chris Jones (Chiefs)
Frank Clark (Chiefs)
Carlos Basham Jr. (Bills)
Mike Danna (Chiefs)
Alex Okafor (Chiefs)

OLB:
Willie Gay Jr. (Chiefs)
Dorian O’Daniel (Chiefs)

ILB:
Anthony Hitchens (Chiefs)
Isaiah McDuffie (Packers)
Ben Niemann (Chiefs)

CB:
L’Jarius Sneed (Chiefs)
Charvarius Ward (Chiefs)
Rashad Fenton (Chiefs)
Tay Gowan (Cardinals)
De’Andre Baker (Chiefs)
Mike Hughes (Chiefs)

FS:
Juan Thornhill (Chiefs)
Armani Watts (Chiefs)

SS:
Tyrann Mathieu (Chiefs)
Daniel Sorensen (Chiefs)

———————-

P:
Tommy Townsend (Chiefs)

K:
Harrison Butker (Chiefs)

LS:
James Winchester (Chiefs)

Kellerfox · 10-15-2021, 01:04 PM

Looks like my CB/draft pick Tay Gowan is getting traded to the Eagles as a part of the Zach Ertz deal. A bit early to say he needed a change of scenery... But hopefully he can gain traction and opportunity in Philadelphia that wasn't happening in AZ.

**Rain Man** · 10-15-2021, 09:15 PM

My rookie class is underachieving right now. Hopefully they start getting traction.

#2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers) - 3 starts, active in all 5 games, 13 receptions.
#2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars) - Active for all 5 games this season, 2 total tackles.
#4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens) - Active roster, but no game appearances yet.
#5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots) - On the Non-Football Injury list.
#6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts) - On injured reserve.
#6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears) - On the Bears' practice squad.
#7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs) - Likely first-ballot hall of famer, 5 starts in 5 games.
#7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars). On the Non-Football Injury list
#7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns) - Cut, but now on the Eagles' practice squad.

kccrow · 10-16-2021, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

My rookie class is underachieving right now. Hopefully they start getting traction.

#2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers) - 3 starts, active in all 5 games, 13 receptions.
#2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars) - Active for all 5 games this season, 2 total tackles.
#4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens) - Active roster, but no game appearances yet.
#5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots) - On the Non-Football Injury list.
#6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts) - On injured reserve.
#6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears) - On the Bears' practice squad.
#7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs) - Likely first-ballot hall of famer, 5 starts in 5 games.
#7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars). On the Non-Football Injury list
#7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns) - Cut, but now on the Eagles' practice squad.

It's early yet. I think you have a few guys in spots where they weren't drafted to be immediate contributors (McGrone, Cisco, Wade, esp) on their respective rosters. Might see more as the season goes along.

Mine doesn't look much different, a bunch on IR and the rest doing nothing much yet sans Abedo and Smith who both look like studs.

Kellerfox · 10-29-2021, 03:03 PM

My man Kenneth Gainwell about to get his shot as RB1 in Philly. Hopefully he grabs the bull by the horns and never lets go.

kccrow · 02-08-2022, 10:18 PM

Rookie Report

1-31 | OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State (6'6" 317)
Jenkins ended up on IR with his back surgery so that really put a damper on things for me at LT. Jenkins eventually returned in week 14 and had two starts in week's 15 and 16 for an injured Peters where he looked like he could end up being a solid player at LT, he just needs to work on his hand placement so he doesn't lunge.

2-63 | CB Paulson Adebo, Stanford (6'1" 198)
Adebo looked really good as a rookie starting all 17 games and putting up 66 tackles, 3 ints and 8 pds. He could be a stud when he fully develops. I'm pretty giddy about this pick.

3-94 | ER Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma (6'3" 253)
Perkins had a pretty good camp but ended up injured and ended the season on IR with no games played. We'll see how this one goes going forward. I've been on a pretty bad trend of drafting edge rushers that end up injured and underperforming.

4-136 | OT Josh Ball, Marshall (6'7" 308)
Ball ended up on IR and had a high ankle early and didn't play. Another guy I have to hope picks it up going forward.

4-144 | DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (6'3" 313)
Nixon had a good camp and got some playing time the first 7 games of the year with 9 tackles and 0.5 sacks. He had a knee injury and landed on IR after that. Talk about a mash unit...

5-162 | TE Noah Gray, Duke (6'3" 240)
Gray spent most of the season playing special teams and ehancing his role there but he also got moe work offensively finishing with 7 catches for 36 yards and a TD. Not all-world but he showed signs he could be a worthwhile player as he develops.

6-208 | LB Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College (6'1" 227)
McDuffie made the roster in Green Bay and saw action, mostly on special teams, in 13 games. Ended up with 2 whopping tackles on the season. The future looks... bright.

6-221 | OG Trey Smith, Tennessee (6'5" 321)
Smith is a stud and proved he's the 1st-round caliber player he should have been if not for that whole heart thing.

6-226 | WR Tre Nixon, Central Florida (6'0" 187)
I cut him after he missed New England's cut. He ended up on the PS all year with a RF deal for 2022.

6-228 | RB Gerrid Doaks, Cincinnati (5'11" 228)
I cut him after he missed Miami's cut. He ended up on the PS all year with a RF deal for 2022.

Overall Report
Pat Mahomes, Aaron Jones, and Travis Kelce remain studs.

I may need to look to replace Chris Carson as my thunder to Jones' lightning at RB after he had neck fusion surgery. He might come back, but it may not be the same.

Boyd's diminished role leaves me likely looking for a true #1 at WR.

Fisher starting 15 games in IND saved my season at LT so glad I didn't make that cut. Same goes for Andrew Wylie at RT.
Thuney and McCoy are studs. McGovern and Bozeman remain quality starters.

Defensively, I'm disappointed in Ross Blacklock. He was to be my stud DE in my 3-4 and he had 2 starts with 22 tackles and 2 sacks in year 2. So far, not so good. That said, the rest of my rotation was solid. My other pick from the same draft, Justin Madubuike, started 11 games in Baltimore and had 36 tackles and 2 sacks so he's ascending. Carlos Watkins, who I was ready to give up on, actually ended up with 14 starts, 32 tackles, and 1 sack. Zach Sieler started 9 games and played in all 17 with 62 tackles and 2 sacks. Wharton had action in 17 games with 28 tackles and 2 sacks and Jarran Reed had 17 starts, 43 tackles, and 2.5 sacks. I could lose Reed so I'll need a NT.

I had good starting rush OLBs again with Houston and Judon but the failure of Ximines and Okoronkwo developing has my cupboard bare. I may have to spend a high pick at the position with Houston getting old.

My linebackers are pretty good with Holcomb (142 tkl, 1 sk, 2 ff, 2 int, 7 pd) and Wilson (100 tkl, 1 sk, 1 ff, 4 int, 4 pd) being studs on the inside and Hitchens in reserve (80 tkl, 2 pd, 1 int).

My triple threat of Adebo, Sneed (76 tkl, 1 sk, 2 int, 8pd), and Murphy (64 tkl, 0.5 sk, 4 int, 12 pd) are as good as it gets and young. I'm happy as a pig eating shit at CB but may need to improve the depth (Baker and Hughes).

Jessie Bates, despite a down year, remains one of the best safeties in the NFL (88 tkl, 1 int). Mathieu was Mathieu but he's probably out. Tarvarius Moore finally had a solid season as a reserve for me with 8 starts and 52 tackles. Amani Hooker started the season on IR with a foot injury but came back looking like a solid get for me in the 4th and could replace Mathieu for me. He had 12 starts in 12 games with 62 tackles, 1 int, and 4 pd.

I'd gauge my needs as:

1. ER
2. WR
3. RT
4. NT
5. RB
6. SS
7. Depth anywhere

**Rain Man** · 02-09-2022, 01:13 PM

I'm hoping my draft picks gain traction. It was not a good rookie year for most of them, but a number of them started getting action late in the season. So I have optimism that I'll see more production next year.

#2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers) - Played in 13 games, with 17 receptions. 3 starts.

#2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars) - Active for all games, and got 3 starts. Actually started getting some game action late in the season.

#4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens) - Mostly inactive, played in 3 games.

#5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots) - On the Non-Football Injury list all year. Not unexpected. I thought there was a chance that he'd be back, but this is an investment pick.

#6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts) - On injured reserve early. Ended up appearing in 3 games though he never attempted a pass.

#6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears) - Started on the Bears' practice squad, but eventually got to the active roster and appeared in, you guessed it, 3 games. Returned some punts and got a couple of receptions.

#7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs) - We know him, we love him. 17 starts of greatness.

#7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars). On the Non-Football Injury list for the entire year, as expected. This is an investment pick.

#7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns) - On the Eagles practice squad almost all year, but got elevated and played in the final game of the year. Progress!

Kellerfox · 03-01-2022, 11:50 AM

Tacoma Trash Pandas Rookie Report

#2-58 Carlos Basham Jr., DE, Wake Forrest (Bills)

Carlos was a key backup in the Bills heavy DL rotation. While his overall production didn’t match with my expectations due to limited playing time, he certainly flashed when he was given opportunities to the tune of 2.5 sacks and multiple pressures. He’s projected to get more playing time next year, so we will keep sitting on him as a developmental prospect.

#2-63 Creed Humphrey, OC, Oklahoma (Chiefs)

Nailed it.

#4-144 Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis (Eagles)

Gainwell emerged as a dynamic threat logging 534 APY and 6 TDs. However, the Eagles were hesitant to give him RB1 carries despite injuries ahead of him on the depth chart. Gainwell may be destined to be a complimentary back in a RBC.

#5-162 Frank Darby, WR, Arizona State (Falcons)

Despite a weak position group, Darby could not get on the field. Looking like a dud.

#6-208 Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College (Packers)

Not much to see here so far, a ST only player in year 1.

#6-221 Tay Gowan, CB, Central Florida (Cardinals)

*toilet flushing sound*

#6-226 Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee (Chiefs)

Nailed it.

#6-228 Khyris Tonga, DT, BYU (Bears)

Off to a solid start as the Bears primary backup at DT appearing in 15 games, starting 2, and logging 24 tackles. I don’t think he is a future all-pro, but a solid rotational piece.

**Rain Man** · 03-27-2022, 09:11 PM

As a reminder, trades only occur if all of the parties given by the Chiefs (players and picks) are available to your team. If so, you can choose to accept or reject the trade.

**Rain Man** · 03-27-2022, 09:30 PM

My draft needs:

High priority
OLB - I've been trying to draft at this position for a decade. I never invest high picks and maybe I finally need to. I'm adding Elijah Lee as a free agent, but he's probably depth.
ILB - I may not even have a body at this position. Very high priority. However, I'm picking up Carter as a possible fill-in.

Moderate priority
CB - This area is moving from a huge strength to a weakness as my players decline.
DE - I need at least one starting DE
WR - I keep investing high draft picks and whiffing. I need a #1 and #2 WR at least. However, it looks like I'm picking up a couple of hot new free agents with the Chiefs, so this might even be a low priority.

Low priority
TE - I need a TE3 but am otherwise good.
OT - I could use some depth and an OTOTF, but am otherwise fine. I'll also pick up Christian as a free agent.
C - I'm fine here, but my starter is a C turned G that I'm moving back.
P - Maybe upgrade here, but not a big issue.
S - Hard to tell. I've got one established veteran and hopefully a rising second-year player, having lost Matthieu in free agency. I'll add a couple of free agents in Reid and Bell.
DT - I have a lot of bodies here who are sufficient.

Not a need
QB - solid starter and two young backups.
RB - solid starter and good depth, also adding Ronald Jones as a free agent.
FB - I have an Andy Reid fullback. I'm fine.
G - I have a wrecking crew here.
K - I have the best in the business.
LS - I'm set here.

03-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1308491 VARSITY	Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years. 1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster. 2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add. 3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing. 4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster. 5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have. 6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post. 6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. 7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players. Original post: You can ignore this now. Spoiler! Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon. The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting. Here's how the game will work. Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.) Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly. Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub". Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285. Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues. Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player. There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap. I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting. So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team. Teams As Of Post #113: Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox) Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333) Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman) Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon) Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover) Duluth Normans (Rain Man) El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz) Fargo Rape (SNR) Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good) Fresno Refugees (Adam) Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter) Hartford Manticores (Crush) Honolulu Craters (Sully) Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu) Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser) Little Rock Reapers (doomy3) Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan) Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis) Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut) Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka) Omaha Streakers (speak24) Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry) Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72) San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog) Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg) Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23) Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts) Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1) Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie) Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk) Worcester Sauce (unothadeal) Added Rules and Reminders: 1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted. 2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in. 3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent. For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259) For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.) You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.) Last edited by Rain Man; 04-25-2024 at 11:30 AM..*
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08-31-2021, 08:25 PM	#856
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1308491 VARSITY	My rookie report is a mixed bag, but if I can get three Week 1 starters I think it's a good draft. #2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers) - Looking really good, likely starter in Carolina. #2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars) - Looking really good. The Jags cut a veteran safety, so he may be starting. #4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens) - Not sure what's happening here. He got traded before the season. I think he'll get playing time, but probably not as a starter. #5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots) - Injured. Not sure I'll see him play this year. #6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts) - Injured. May show up on the Colts' roster midseason. #6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears) - Got cut. Maybe he'll land on the practice squad. I'll keep him around to give him at least a year to develop. #7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs) - Likely first-ballot hall of famer. Week 1 starter. #7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars). I knew he was hurt when I drafted him. I may not see him on the field this year. #7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns) - High-risk pick, which I knew going in. He got cut. I'll keep him around for a year to see if he lands on a practice squad. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history. Last edited by Rain Man; 08-31-2021 at 08:32 PM..
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08-31-2021, 08:30 PM	#857
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1308491 VARSITY	My cuts: First, I lost two guys in free agency. Sammy Watkins Damien Wilson Then I cut these guys. Derrick Gore Prince Tega Wanogho Michael Jordan Andrew Wylie Ben Niemann Maurice Hurst Mike Pennel Jordan Ta'amu Jerick McKinnon Kelvin Harmon (Redskins) Antonio Callaway Ricky Seals-Jones Mitchell Schwartz Tyrell Crosby (Lions) Keliechi Osemele Bryan Witzmann Kyle Long Austin Reiter, OL Tedric Thompson Antonio Hamilton Dicaprio Bootle I'm strong enough on the OL that I cut a starting guard in Michael Jordan. I hated to cut Niemann, Hurst, and Pennel, but I had no choice. And by the way, I declined the trade for Mike Hughes. I'm deep at cornerback. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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08-31-2021, 09:52 PM	#858
Kellerfox Starter Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-9600	I’ll try to tackle my roster & cuts this weekend. Quick analysis on my draft picks… every single pick made their teams initial 53-man roster. #2-58 Carlos Basham Jr., DE, Wake Forrest (Bills) I had hoped he would be an immediate hit and wow in camp / preseason, but unfortunately he has somewhat been lost behind a few other pass rushers on the Bills roster. I don’t expect a lot of production this year. Still, camp reports still point to potential. #2-63 Creed Humphrey, OC, Oklahoma (Chiefs) Angry my physician team for not disclosing that Humphrey is a South Paw, but happy to have landed a perennial pro bowler. #4-144 Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis (Eagles) The Eagles are very excited about Gainwell and so am I. Gainwell should be their primary pass catching back right off the bat, and will inevitably take over when Miles Sanders has his inevitable season ending injury. I expect Gainwell to have an Antonio Gibson - sequel rookie season if all goes to plan. #5-162 Frank Darby, WR, Arizona State (Falcons) Made the 53 man roster, but didn’t wow anyone. I have a tough decision ahead on whether to keep Darby, or roll the dice on a Fountain. #6-208 Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College (Packers) I haven’t seen much of McDuffie, I think he may have been injured for much of camp. He did make the Packers roster, and they are thin at LB, so hoping it all comes together mid season. #6-221 Tay Gowan, CB, Central Florida (Cardinals) Tay was awful in the preseason, but made the Cards 53 man roster as one of only 4 CBs because they have jack shit at the position. Barring a trade, Gowan will see significant time. Best hope hard lessons turn into serious growth. #6-226 Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee (Chiefs) Rainman covered it - locking down a future HOFer in the 6th round = VALUE #6-228 Khyris Tonga, DT, BYU (Bears) Made the Bears roster, impressed in camp, probably won’t see much playing time.
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09-02-2021, 07:48 PM	#859
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $186403	Rookie Report I still feel like this could be a solid class for me with Jenkins, Adebo, Perkins, Nixon, and Smith looking good early on. That said, counting on Jenkins to be my LT in what could be a redshirt year for him after surgery is going to leave me with a huge hole for 2021. 1-31 \| OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State (6'6" 317) Jenkins ended up on IR with his back surgery. We'll see if he returns in 2021, but this puts me in a rough spot at LT. 2-63 \| CB Paulson Adebo, Stanford (6'1" 198) From everything I've seen and read, Adebo looks good and should see significant snaps this year. Hey may not get the starting gig over Crawley out of the gate, but it sounds like he will soon. 3-94 \| ER Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma (6'3" 253) Perkins had a pretty good camp and was taking time from Winovich as a rotational pass rusher. He could develop into an asset quickly but he probably doesn't start with Judon and Van Noy there unless Bill changes to a 3-4 more frequently. 4-136 \| OT Josh Ball, Marshall (6'7" 308) Ball ended up on IR and had a high ankle early so I really have no idea what I'll have here, if anything. 4-144 \| DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (6'3" 313) Nixon had a good camp and is listed as 2nd string. He should get quite a few snaps based on what I've seen and heard. 5-162 \| TE Noah Gray, Duke (6'3" 240) I'm a bit more worried about this pick after a lackluster pre-season than I was in minicamp but there's time. 6-208 \| LB Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College (6'1" 227) McDuffie made the roster in Green Bay, but he's 3rd string and it's hard to put a finger on what I have here. 6-221 \| OG Trey Smith, Tennessee (6'5" 321) Smith looks like a stud, which we kind of expected out of a 1st Round-caliber player that fell. 6-226 \| WR Tre Nixon, Central Florida (6'0" 187) Nixon missed the cut but the Pats kept him on the practice squad. I may have missed on a traits-based shot in the dark. 6-228 \| RB Gerrid Doaks, Cincinnati (5'11" 228) I was really excited about Doaks but he missed the cut in Miami and ended up on their PS. I may not give up on him just yet though, given he had a pretty solid preseaon finale.
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09-02-2021, 08:54 PM	#860
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $186403	2021 ROSTER OFFENSE (25) QB - Patrick Mahomes (#1-10/17 - KC) QB - Chad Henne (FA/20 - KC) RB - Aaron Jones (#5-180/17 - GB) RB - Christopher Carson (#7-245/17 - SEA) RB - Jerick McKinnon (FA/21 - KC) FB - Michael Burton (FA/21 - KC) TE - Travis Kelce TE - Noah Gray (#5-162 - KC) TE - Blake Bell (FA/21 - KC) WR - Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16 - CIN) WR - Gabriel Davis (#4-125/20 - BUF) WR - Donovan Peoples-Jones (#5-177/20 - CLE) WR - Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16 - CLE) WR - Daurice Fountain (FA/21 - KC) WR - Olabisi Johnson (#7-243/19 - MIN) OT - Eric Fisher (IND) OT - Teven Jenkins (#1-31/21 - CHI) OT - Josh Ball (#4-136/21 - DAL) OT - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC) LG - Joe Thuney (FA/21 - KC) RG - Trey Smith (#6-221/21 - KC) OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif OC - Erik McCoy (#2-48/19 - NO) OC - Connor McGovern (#4-126/16 - NYJ) OC - Bradley Bozeman (#6-198/18 - BAL) DEFENSE (25) DL - Ross Blacklock (#1-32/20 - HOU) DL - Justin Madubuike (#2-64/20 - BAL) DL - Carlos Watkins (#4-132/17 - DAL) DL - Zach Sieler (#7-219/18 - MIA) DL - Tershawn Wharton (UDFA/20 - KC) DL - Jarran Reed (FA/21 - KC) DL - Daviyon Nixon (#4-144/21 - CAR) ER - Justin Houston (BAL) ER - Matt Judon (#4-129/16 - NE) ER - Oshane Ximines (#3-92/19 - NYG) ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (#5-159/18 - LAR) ER - Ronnie Perkins (#3-94/21 - NE) LB - Anthony Hitchens (FA/18 - KC) LB - Cole Holcomb (#5-167/19 - WAS) LB - Logan Wilson (#2-63/20 - CIN) LB - Isaiah McDuffie (#6-208 - GB) CB - L'Jarius Sneed (#4-138/20 - KC) CB - Paulson Adebo (#2-63/21 - NO) CB - Byron Murphy (#1-29/19 - ARZ) CB - Mike Hughes (t-MIN/21) CB - DeAndre Baker (FA/20 - KC) DB - Jessie Bates (#2-52/18 - CIN) DB - Tyrann Mathieu (FA/19 - KC) DB - Tarvarius Moore (#3-86/18 - SF) DB - Amani Hooker (#4-116/19 - TEN) SPECIAL TEAMS (3) K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC) P Tommy Townsend (UDFA/20 - KC) LS James Winchester Offseason Trades Trade OL Yasir Durant to NE for 2022 7th Trade 2022 6th to MIN for CB Mike Hughes and 2022 7th Cuts WR - Antonio Calloway (FA/20 - KC) TE - Nick Keizer (FA/20 - KC) CB - Holton Hill (#7-243/18 - FA) CB - Thakarius Keyes (#7-226/20 - KC) ER - Taco Charlton (FA/20 - KC) OT - Martinas Rankin (t-HOU/19) DL - Harrison Phillips (#3-95/18 - BUF) OG - Kyle Long (FA/21 - KC) OC - Austin Blythe (FA/21 - KC) OL - Mitchell Schwartz (FA) WR - Tre Nixon (#6-226/21 - NE) ER - Tanoh Kpassagnon (#2-59/17 - NO) RB - Gerrid Doaks (#6-226/21 - MIA) Notes: Parting with 6th and 7th rounders early into their careers doesn't bother me but having to release 2nd and 3rd rounders do. I simply have too many defensive linemen to hang onto Phillips who has done nothing but regress post-injury. K-Pass is also a casualty as I'd rather hang onto the potential of oft-injured Okorowonko than limited productivity, hoping this is the year he gets out of the tub. That said I'm not too disappointed in the roster sans my ability to rework the tackle position. I'm hanging onto Fisher as a last-ditch effort of hope that I'll have a left tackle at some point this season. Meanwhile, I'm hanging onto Wylie over Blythe just to have a RT at all. To be honest, I thought about hanging onto Schwartz as well in hopes he signs somewhere... Things are thin around here. Speaking of bad luck with losing players to injury, I've also lost 'Bisi Johnson for the season with a torn ACL, but I literally have nobody but a practice squad player in Nixon to push him off the team. I'd rather hang on for next year with the kid than hope Nixon pushes his way into the league.
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09-04-2021, 10:11 AM	#861
Kellerfox Starter Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-9600	Tacoma Trash Pandas 2021 Roster QB: Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs) Chad Henne (Chiefs) RB: Clyde Edwards-Helaire(Chiefs) Kenneth Gainwell (Eagles) Jerrick McKinnon (Chiefs) Darrel Williams (Chiefs) FB: Michael Burton (Chiefs) WR: Tyreek Hill (Chiefs) Mecole Hardman (Chiefs) Demarcus Robinson (Chiefs) Frank Darby (Falcons) Byron Pringle (Chiefs) Daurice Fountain (Chiefs) TE: Travis Kelce (Chiefs) Blake Bell (Chiefs) Jody Fortson (Chiefs) OT: Orlando Brown Jr. (Chiefs) Lucas Niang (Chiefs) Mike Remmers (Chiefs) OG: Joe Thuney (Chiefs) Trey Smith (Chiefs - Drafted) Andrew Wylie (Chiefs) OC: Creed Humphrey (Chiefs - Drafted) Austin Blythe (Chiefs) Nick Allegretti (Chiefs) ———————- DT: Jarran Reed (Chiefs) Khalen Saunders (Chiefs) Derrick Nnadi (Chiefs) Khyris Tonga (Bears) Tershawn Wharton (Chiefs) DE: Chris Jones (Chiefs) Frank Clark (Chiefs) Carlos Basham Jr. (Bills) Mike Danna (Chiefs) Alex Okafor (Chiefs) OLB: Willie Gay Jr. (Chiefs) Dorian O’Daniel (Chiefs) ILB: Anthony Hitchens (Chiefs) Isaiah McDuffie (Packers) Ben Niemann (Chiefs) CB: L’Jarius Sneed (Chiefs) Charvarius Ward (Chiefs) Rashad Fenton (Chiefs) Tay Gowan (Cardinals) De’Andre Baker (Chiefs) Mike Hughes (Chiefs) FS: Juan Thornhill (Chiefs) Armani Watts (Chiefs) SS: Tyrann Mathieu (Chiefs) Daniel Sorensen (Chiefs) ———————- P: Tommy Townsend (Chiefs) K: Harrison Butker (Chiefs) LS: James Winchester (Chiefs)
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10-15-2021, 01:04 PM	#862
Kellerfox Starter Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-9600	Looks like my CB/draft pick Tay Gowan is getting traded to the Eagles as a part of the Zach Ertz deal. A bit early to say he needed a change of scenery... But hopefully he can gain traction and opportunity in Philadelphia that wasn't happening in AZ.
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10-15-2021, 09:15 PM	#863
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1308491 VARSITY	My rookie class is underachieving right now. Hopefully they start getting traction. #2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers) - 3 starts, active in all 5 games, 13 receptions. #2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars) - Active for all 5 games this season, 2 total tackles. #4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens) - Active roster, but no game appearances yet. #5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots) - On the Non-Football Injury list. #6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts) - On injured reserve. #6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears) - On the Bears' practice squad. #7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs) - Likely first-ballot hall of famer, 5 starts in 5 games. #7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars). On the Non-Football Injury list #7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns) - Cut, but now on the Eagles' practice squad. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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10-29-2021, 03:03 PM	#865
Kellerfox Starter Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-9600	My man Kenneth Gainwell about to get his shot as RB1 in Philly. Hopefully he grabs the bull by the horns and never lets go.
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02-08-2022, 10:18 PM	#866
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $186403	Rookie Report 1-31 \| OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State (6'6" 317) Jenkins ended up on IR with his back surgery so that really put a damper on things for me at LT. Jenkins eventually returned in week 14 and had two starts in week's 15 and 16 for an injured Peters where he looked like he could end up being a solid player at LT, he just needs to work on his hand placement so he doesn't lunge. 2-63 \| CB Paulson Adebo, Stanford (6'1" 198) Adebo looked really good as a rookie starting all 17 games and putting up 66 tackles, 3 ints and 8 pds. He could be a stud when he fully develops. I'm pretty giddy about this pick. 3-94 \| ER Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma (6'3" 253) Perkins had a pretty good camp but ended up injured and ended the season on IR with no games played. We'll see how this one goes going forward. I've been on a pretty bad trend of drafting edge rushers that end up injured and underperforming. 4-136 \| OT Josh Ball, Marshall (6'7" 308) Ball ended up on IR and had a high ankle early and didn't play. Another guy I have to hope picks it up going forward. 4-144 \| DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (6'3" 313) Nixon had a good camp and got some playing time the first 7 games of the year with 9 tackles and 0.5 sacks. He had a knee injury and landed on IR after that. Talk about a mash unit... 5-162 \| TE Noah Gray, Duke (6'3" 240) Gray spent most of the season playing special teams and ehancing his role there but he also got moe work offensively finishing with 7 catches for 36 yards and a TD. Not all-world but he showed signs he could be a worthwhile player as he develops. 6-208 \| LB Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College (6'1" 227) McDuffie made the roster in Green Bay and saw action, mostly on special teams, in 13 games. Ended up with 2 whopping tackles on the season. The future looks... bright. 6-221 \| OG Trey Smith, Tennessee (6'5" 321) Smith is a stud and proved he's the 1st-round caliber player he should have been if not for that whole heart thing. 6-226 \| WR Tre Nixon, Central Florida (6'0" 187) I cut him after he missed New England's cut. He ended up on the PS all year with a RF deal for 2022. 6-228 \| RB Gerrid Doaks, Cincinnati (5'11" 228) I cut him after he missed Miami's cut. He ended up on the PS all year with a RF deal for 2022. Overall Report Pat Mahomes, Aaron Jones, and Travis Kelce remain studs. I may need to look to replace Chris Carson as my thunder to Jones' lightning at RB after he had neck fusion surgery. He might come back, but it may not be the same. Boyd's diminished role leaves me likely looking for a true #1 at WR. Fisher starting 15 games in IND saved my season at LT so glad I didn't make that cut. Same goes for Andrew Wylie at RT. Thuney and McCoy are studs. McGovern and Bozeman remain quality starters. Defensively, I'm disappointed in Ross Blacklock. He was to be my stud DE in my 3-4 and he had 2 starts with 22 tackles and 2 sacks in year 2. So far, not so good. That said, the rest of my rotation was solid. My other pick from the same draft, Justin Madubuike, started 11 games in Baltimore and had 36 tackles and 2 sacks so he's ascending. Carlos Watkins, who I was ready to give up on, actually ended up with 14 starts, 32 tackles, and 1 sack. Zach Sieler started 9 games and played in all 17 with 62 tackles and 2 sacks. Wharton had action in 17 games with 28 tackles and 2 sacks and Jarran Reed had 17 starts, 43 tackles, and 2.5 sacks. I could lose Reed so I'll need a NT. I had good starting rush OLBs again with Houston and Judon but the failure of Ximines and Okoronkwo developing has my cupboard bare. I may have to spend a high pick at the position with Houston getting old. My linebackers are pretty good with Holcomb (142 tkl, 1 sk, 2 ff, 2 int, 7 pd) and Wilson (100 tkl, 1 sk, 1 ff, 4 int, 4 pd) being studs on the inside and Hitchens in reserve (80 tkl, 2 pd, 1 int). My triple threat of Adebo, Sneed (76 tkl, 1 sk, 2 int, 8pd), and Murphy (64 tkl, 0.5 sk, 4 int, 12 pd) are as good as it gets and young. I'm happy as a pig eating shit at CB but may need to improve the depth (Baker and Hughes). Jessie Bates, despite a down year, remains one of the best safeties in the NFL (88 tkl, 1 int). Mathieu was Mathieu but he's probably out. Tarvarius Moore finally had a solid season as a reserve for me with 8 starts and 52 tackles. Amani Hooker started the season on IR with a foot injury but came back looking like a solid get for me in the 4th and could replace Mathieu for me. He had 12 starts in 12 games with 62 tackles, 1 int, and 4 pd. I'd gauge my needs as: 1. ER 2. WR 3. RT 4. NT 5. RB 6. SS 7. Depth anywhere Last edited by kccrow; 02-09-2022 at 04:31 PM..
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02-09-2022, 01:13 PM	#867
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1308491 VARSITY	I'm hoping my draft picks gain traction. It was not a good rookie year for most of them, but a number of them started getting action late in the season. So I have optimism that I'll see more production next year. #2-58 - Terrace Marshall, WR (Panthers) - Played in 13 games, with 17 receptions. 3 starts. #2-63 - Andre Cisco, FS (Jaguars) - Active for all games, and got 3 starts. Actually started getting some game action late in the season. #4-144 - Shaun Wade, CB (Ravens) - Mostly inactive, played in 3 games. #5-175 - Cameron McGrone, OLB (patriots) - On the Non-Football Injury list all year. Not unexpected. I thought there was a chance that he'd be back, but this is an investment pick. #6-209 - Sam Ehlinger, QB (Colts) - On injured reserve early. Ended up appearing in 3 games though he never attempted a pass. #6-215 - Dazz Newsome, WR (Bears) - Started on the Bears' practice squad, but eventually got to the active roster and appeared in, you guessed it, 3 games. Returned some punts and got a couple of receptions. #7-223 - Trey Smith, G (Chiefs) - We know him, we love him. 17 starts of greatness. #7-247 - Dylan Moses, ILB (Signed by Jaguars). On the Non-Football Injury list for the entire year, as expected. This is an investment pick. #7-258 - Marvin Wilson, DT (Signed by Browns) - On the Eagles practice squad almost all year, but got elevated and played in the final game of the year. Progress! __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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03-01-2022, 11:50 AM	#868
Kellerfox Starter Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-9600	Tacoma Trash Pandas Rookie Report #2-58 Carlos Basham Jr., DE, Wake Forrest (Bills) Carlos was a key backup in the Bills heavy DL rotation. While his overall production didn’t match with my expectations due to limited playing time, he certainly flashed when he was given opportunities to the tune of 2.5 sacks and multiple pressures. He’s projected to get more playing time next year, so we will keep sitting on him as a developmental prospect. #2-63 Creed Humphrey, OC, Oklahoma (Chiefs) Nailed it. #4-144 Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis (Eagles) Gainwell emerged as a dynamic threat logging 534 APY and 6 TDs. However, the Eagles were hesitant to give him RB1 carries despite injuries ahead of him on the depth chart. Gainwell may be destined to be a complimentary back in a RBC. #5-162 Frank Darby, WR, Arizona State (Falcons) Despite a weak position group, Darby could not get on the field. Looking like a dud. #6-208 Isaiah McDuffie, LB, Boston College (Packers) Not much to see here so far, a ST only player in year 1. #6-221 Tay Gowan, CB, Central Florida (Cardinals) toilet flushing sound #6-226 Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee (Chiefs) Nailed it. #6-228 Khyris Tonga, DT, BYU (Bears) Off to a solid start as the Bears primary backup at DT appearing in 15 games, starting 2, and logging 24 tackles. I don’t think he is a future all-pro, but a solid rotational piece.
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03-27-2022, 09:11 PM	#869
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1308491 VARSITY	As a reminder, trades only occur if all of the parties given by the Chiefs (players and picks) are available to your team. If so, you can choose to accept or reject the trade. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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03-27-2022, 09:30 PM	#870
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1308491 VARSITY	My draft needs: High priority OLB - I've been trying to draft at this position for a decade. I never invest high picks and maybe I finally need to. I'm adding Elijah Lee as a free agent, but he's probably depth. ILB - I may not even have a body at this position. Very high priority. However, I'm picking up Carter as a possible fill-in. Moderate priority CB - This area is moving from a huge strength to a weakness as my players decline. DE - I need at least one starting DE WR - I keep investing high draft picks and whiffing. I need a #1 and #2 WR at least. However, it looks like I'm picking up a couple of hot new free agents with the Chiefs, so this might even be a low priority. Low priority TE - I need a TE3 but am otherwise good. OT - I could use some depth and an OTOTF, but am otherwise fine. I'll also pick up Christian as a free agent. C - I'm fine here, but my starter is a C turned G that I'm moving back. P - Maybe upgrade here, but not a big issue. S - Hard to tell. I've got one established veteran and hopefully a rising second-year player, having lost Matthieu in free agency. I'll add a couple of free agents in Reid and Bell. DT - I have a lot of bodies here who are sufficient. Not a need QB - solid starter and two young backups. RB - solid starter and good depth, also adding Ronald Jones as a free agent. FB - I have an Andy Reid fullback. I'm fine. G - I have a wrecking crew here. K - I have the best in the business. LS - I'm set here. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history. Last edited by Rain Man; 03-27-2022 at 09:38 PM..
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