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Old 05-20-2013, 03:00 PM  
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The list of 85 by Roastmaster Saul Good. And hey, it's actually saul good.

As a spinoff to the successful NFL Network's version of this and from the drama thread, it has come to fruition that this thread must be created.

Each day Hootie will reveal a member starting with 101 and working his way in order to number 1. I will update the OP as I see the names revealed.

*Warning this thread may cause a severe case of butthurt*

Let it begin!!

Hootie's List

Saul Good - A little about Roaster #2 (by frazod)
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85 BigRedChief
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84. StevieRay
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83. Rustshack
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82. KCnative
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81. Notorious
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80. Braincase
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79. big nasty kcnut
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78. crazycoffey
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77. Phobia

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76 Dave Lane

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75 KnowMo roasted by PGM
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74 Luv roasted by Mr. Flopnuts
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:52 PM   #8641
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Haha, nahhh... I don't think so...which is pretty much why I don't want to get roasted. Not because I am thin-skinned and can't take it (I think the roast itself would make me laugh), but because I just don't want to deal with all of the inevitable; "what?! rico is a dumbass n00b, he's not top 100," "rico is an attention-whore...not top 100," "rico has to type a freaking book every time he posts, he's annoying, not top 100," etc. It's like...I don't consider myself a top 100 guy and I know there are plenty (the majority) of others who don't, and I just don't feel like reading their comments when I've already thought of their presumed logic myself.

Not to mention, I honestly think it would be hard to do. Maybe I'm crazy for thinking that? Everyone told me when I claimed that Hootie could be roasted that "you can't roast someone who roasts themselves." I didn't really know what that meant until I thought of the potential of myself being roasted...now it does make sense, IMO, for I have pretty much roasted myself. I was an idiot in my attempted roast of Hootie...basically roasted myself with that. I've also acknowledged all of the slams against me and have even elaborated on them... Hell, my signature pokes fun at myself..."tl;dr." Add the fact that I haven't really been around that long and haven't interacted much...kind of a small data set. I think it would be hard to do, honestly.

However, I was pretty impressed that Saul described me as the naive dude who calls out the elephant in the room.... pretty insightful, for my best friend (who knows me extremely well) is the main person who describes me as being that way in real life. Saul's a pretty intelligent/observant dude...maybe it can be done. I puke at the thought of everyone's reactions to it though.
Could you elaborate on that?

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Old 06-23-2013, 12:56 PM   #8642
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Could you elaborate on that?



To be honest, yes, yes I could.

But I'll spare y'all. I'll leave it with the "short" version.
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:03 PM   #8643
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Haha, nahhh... I don't think so...which is pretty much why I don't want to be roasted. Not because I am thin-skinned and can't take it (I think the roast itself would make me laugh), but because I just don't want to deal with all of the inevitable; "what?! rico is a dumbass n00b, he's not top 100," "rico is an attention-whore...not top 100," "rico has to type a freaking book every time he posts, he's annoying, not top 100," etc. It's like...I don't consider myself a top 100 guy and I know there are plenty (the majority) of others who don't, and I just don't feel like reading their comments when I've already thought of their presumed logic myself.

Not to mention, I honestly think it would be hard to do. Maybe I'm crazy for thinking that? Everyone told me when I claimed that Hootie could be roasted that "you can't roast someone who roasts themselves." I didn't really know what that meant until I thought of the potential of myself being roasted...now it does make sense, IMO, for I have pretty much roasted myself. I was an idiot in my attempted roast of Hootie...basically roasted myself with that. I've also acknowledged all of the slams against me and have even elaborated on them... Hell, my signature pokes fun at myself..."tl;dr." Add the fact that I haven't really been around that long and haven't interacted much...kind of a small data set. I think it would be hard to do, honestly.

However, I was pretty impressed that Saul described me as the naive dude who calls out the elephant in the room.... pretty insightful, for my best friend (who knows me extremely well) is the main person who describes me as being that way in real life. Saul's a pretty intelligent/observant dude...maybe it can be done. I puke at the thought of everyone's reactions to it though.
You worry too much what other posters think....off the list. This is my thread still and I could add you in if I wanted to.
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:06 PM   #8644
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:09 PM   #8645
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Haha, nawww....patteeu has taken his jabs at me in good fun...all in all, the dude has been extremely friendly to me personally.
I can't even think of a mega thread he participates in. I was just trying to get a reaction out of him, and he wouldn't give me the satisfaction.
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:09 PM   #8646
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You worry too much what other posters think....off the list. This is my thread still and I could add you in if I wanted to.
Yes and no. Depends on the poster. Depends on the validity/tone of their comments and their online persona for that matter.. For the most part, I'm able to let shit bounce off.

Are you threatening to roast me, Mr. PGM? PGM, the pot-stirrer, is going to lose the vag and roast someone himself?!?!?! Wut, wut?????
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I can't even think of a mega thread he participates in. I was just trying to get a reaction out of him, and he wouldn't give me the satisfaction.
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I can't even think of a mega thread he participates in. I was just trying to get a reaction out of him, and he wouldn't give me the satisfaction.
, you like to razz him, don't ya? I kind of caught on to that when I saw your first post in the "post a picture of what you think CP users look like in real life" thread.
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:15 PM   #8649
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Yes and no. Depends on the poster. Depends on the validity/tone of their comments and their online persona for that matter.. For the most part, I'm able to let shit bounce off.

Are you threatening to roast me, Mr. PGM? PGM, the pot-stirrer, is going to lose the vag and roast someone himself?!?!?! Wut, wut?????
I've got another thread to get going once this hits 10K, so I really won't have time to do any roastings.
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Phil is a legend in his own mind. He has this peculiar habit of bragging over things that nobody else on the face of the earth even cares about. I swear to Christ, P, nobody gives a shit that you once called Trent Green "TrINT Green" 12 years ago. It was funny enough to generate a 44 post thread. Congratulations. Why is that throw-away of a thread in the ****ing Hall of Classics? Is that really a classic thread? In Phil mother****ing Kloster's head? Yes. To anybody else in the world? Hardly.

Phobia is the kind of guy who will only befriend people who are a rung below him in status. If you make more money than him...are smarter than him...have a better goatee than him...drive a faster Camaro than him, etc., he's going to run you off. You see, the most important thing to Phil is to surround himself with people who admire him. That makes him feel important. By weeding the successful people out of his circle, he gets to wax poetic about how he "only drinks the finest domestic macro brews" without getting called on his bullshit.

Everyone knows a guy like this. He's the guy who has his buddies over for beers so he can "big time" them. He'll make a big show about how generous he is with his beer. Then, he'll come out with a frosted mug for himself. "Nothing beats a cold one after a softball double-header, right guys? Feel free to drink my beer, but only the big guy gets the frosty mug. You guys can fight over who gets the koozie." He's also the guy who takes the extra base and slides in beer league softball games.

So that's pretty much phobia. He'll read this and pretend that he thinks it's sort of funny (but could be better if...). He may even poke a little fun at himself just to show how self-deprecating he can be. He doesn't think it's funny, though. He's WAY funnier than me. Don't believe him? Just ask any of the slightly older, slightly fatter, slightly less successful friends, and they'll back him up.

Pros: If frazod really wants to live in someone's head, phobia is the one guy who might be able to squeeze his fat ass in. Didn't really rip off a customer like billay said he did on his Facebook page.

Cons: Has a bizarre goatee size to face size ratio. Isn't a goatee supposed to at least be wider than your lips? Talks about how good he is at eating pussy to anyone who will listen...That must be a "thing" for middle aged dudes with beer guts and goatees because he's not the only one who does that, but it just creeps me the **** out.

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Old 06-23-2013, 01:21 PM   #8652
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Yes and no. Depends on the poster. Depends on the validity/tone of their comments and their online persona for that matter.. For the most part, I'm able to let shit bounce off.

Are you threatening to roast me, Mr. PGM? PGM, the pot-stirrer, is going to lose the vag and roast someone himself?!?!?! Wut, wut?????
If you're going to put yourself out there the way you do, you had better learn to not give 1 single **** what anyone on this board thinks about anything. Because you're leaving yourself wide open. Anyone who is willing to do that, is one of the good guys in my books. Oftentimes they are also the ones who get hurt the most, because they had the balls to come on here and be real.
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, you like to razz him, don't ya? I kind of caught on to that when I saw your first post in the "post a picture of what you think CP users look like in real life" thread.
I can't even remember what was going on when he started that thread. I forgot that I was the headliner in it until I clicked on it yesterday.
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:27 PM   #8654
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, you like to razz him, don't ya? I kind of caught on to that when I saw your first post in the "post a picture of what you think CP users look like in real life" thread.
Pat is someone I like to **** with, because not only can he keep up, he consistently gives me a run for my money. Dude has flat out pissed me off a few times, and he's one of the only ones who I have to admit has had that power. Someone may get under my skin a time, or even two, but rarely do I give people that power more than that.

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I can't even remember what was going on when he started that thread. I forgot that I was the headliner in it until I clicked on it yesterday.
I don't either. I just remember thinking it was ****ing brilliant when I posted it. I'm easily amused though.
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