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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:53 PM   #8611
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A lot. Until cable is completely eliminated or streaming takes over 100% of the market, it will matter quite a lot.
Its all the same. Streaming vs cable is all about eyeballs.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:54 PM   #8612
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College sports would be better off if Texas and it’s little siblings were back in their own league.
If Kansas is a “little sibling” to Texas, then Kentucky is a “little sibling” to Florida or Auburn.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:54 PM   #8613
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Saw a rumor that these talks have been going on for quite a while (over a year) behind the scenes and A&M was kept in the dark. Once they found out they went public with the info in the Houston Chronicle to try and put out the fire and instead they poured jet fuel on it.

The opposite end of the spectrum is A&M has known all along and is just putting up appearances for it's fans.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:57 PM   #8614
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AAC seems to be planning to poach what's left of the Big 12. The arms race will be interesting.
Sure, because most of what's left isn't very attractive.

I think schools like Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, West Virgina
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:57 PM   #8615
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:59 PM   #8616
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If Kansas is a “little sibling” to Texas, then Kentucky is a “little sibling” to Florida or Auburn.
I thought it was implied that I was referring to TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech.

You know, schools that are actually in Texas.
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Old 07-23-2021, 01:00 PM   #8617
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I thought it was implied that I was referring to TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech.

You know, schools that are actually in Texas.
Got ya.
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Old 07-23-2021, 01:01 PM   #8618
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Sure, because most of what's left isn't very attractive.

I think schools like Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, West Virgina
West Virginia has more attractiveness than the other 3.
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Old 07-23-2021, 01:01 PM   #8619
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I thought it was implied that I was referring to TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech.

You know, schools that are actually in Texas.
AKA the old SWC.
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Old 07-23-2021, 01:02 PM   #8620
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Got ya.
Literally just put Houston, Baylor, Texas, TCU, A&M, Texas Tech, SMU all in one conference and college athletics would be better with no need for re-alignment.
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AKA the old SWC.
Yes, minus Arkansas.
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On TexAgs, there was some hope Mizzouche would vote against this move.

Hahahahaha! If the SEC called their entire ath Dept and told them to hop on one leg during a Zoom call, MU would immediately agree.
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On TexAgs, there was some hope Mizzouche would vote against this move.

Hahahahaha! If the SEC called their entire ath Dept and told them to hop on one leg during a Zoom call, MU would immediately agree.
Haha KU is a midmajor now
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Old 07-23-2021, 01:10 PM   #8624
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The Big 10 may first try to go bigger and bolder with their potential expansion than settling for KU and the other soon to be Big 12 orphans… i.e. trying to raid the premium schools from the Pac 12 and ACC.
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Old 07-23-2021, 01:11 PM   #8625
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Basketball would be a lot of fun. Football would suck just as bad as it always has.

BIG hoops would be awful. If you haven’t watched them, they’re slow plodding physical boring teams in hoops -just like FB. The B12 always has premier athletes, the best in the nation IMO. Even teams like Tech or Okie would go like 6-12 in League but always had some freak atheletes on the court - BIG doesn’t.


Hoops would take a big blow re: watchability.
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