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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins
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Why is it there always has to be two sides and only two sides?
We could've kept hill for this year under contract and rounded out the roster and fought for another title then let him walk/tag and trade for less next year. It wasn't pay him 30 million now or trade him. It just feels like we took ourselves out of contention now for the future and nothing is guaranteed in life. Windows don't stay open long in most cases. And we probably just closed this one in the hopes of opening another later. Hope it works out. |
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Tyreek specifically and deliberately waited for some contracts to get done before signing - Adams, primarily - because it means a higher pay day.
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But I'm also honest with myself that those are HOPES. No matter what anyone says, nothing about the future is ever guaranteed. You have to calculate what of the present, given the past will insulate you from the vagaries of the future. And right now we are hoping we can rebuild in a whole new paradigm, when I was hoping to build on existing reliability. IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, we'll be in great shape at some point, but every team in a parity league can say that.
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Dorsey would have given him that dumbass contract and put us in cap he’ll AGAIN and then drafted shitty ass players with later picks like he did in Cleveland
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When player start slowing in their early 30s, the team cuts them and say "it's strictly business". For Hills, this was also strictly business, and sometime their truly is a "win-win". He provided many thrills, many wins, a ring few of us have ever seen. Time to move on and win a different way.
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So here's something I think few are considering - the QB market is INSANE. Since Mahomes signed his deal people have said "hey, we'll just keep kicking the can and in 5 years when that cap number hits $50 million we'll just renegotiate...." What if we....didn't. Because I've got a sneaking suspicion that if we stop kicking that can and just let that deal stand as written, it'll be a screaming bargain now until it expires. And then we're under pressure to come back to the table as QBs contracts start to push north of $50+ million in annual guarantees. We can consider that sort of thing if we DON'T go balls to the wall trying to retain Hill. Or if we move on from Jones when it's pretty obvious that he's not worth a $27 cap charge. We just have to be much MUCH smarter in how we're doing things. And this is, in many ways, a positive sign. We've seen it all off-season. We were in on Smith until his market got stupid and we pulled the chute. Then it got more stupid somehow. We sat down with Hill and tried to get something done but when he decided he wanted to set records, we said no mas. We got JuJu on dick in guarantees. We got Reid at 60% what Mathieu was demanding. Now I do wish we'd have gone ahead and re-signed Ward now, but I don't think this was Veach's plan when a decision point came on Ward. This all demonstrates that Veach is past his "hold the paddle up until you win" approach of the last 4 years. And that approach was disastrous long-term.
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They don’t need to hit on every single pick for this to work out. |
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Bye Hill and say goodbye to your stats and HOF career. Good luck with Tua.
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Should have drafted him instead of Hardman. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Tyreek was not as effective last season because other teams' defenses adjusted to deny him open routes. As fun as he is to watch, the Chiefs will be okay without him.
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Just to lighten the mood a little..... Sorry if repost
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There will come a time when Patrick Mahomes, of only by dint of his contract, will have to make his WRs. Well that time has come. Patrick's gonna have to make some B tier guys look better than they are. And he has the skills to do that. And I don't want to hear one single goddamn thing about how much he does or does not trust them. Time to put your big boy pants on and MAKE these guys into weapons, Patrick.
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This goes back to my point about veach messing up the timing. He should have done something with Tyreek years ago. The more time went on with him being underpaid, the more expensive and our of control the situation got. It should have never come to this point when the Adams trade set such a precedent. And if that's the case, then don't trade him this off-season. You're basically saying veach got schooled by rosenhaus or this proves my point about veachs bad timing/planning.
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