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Old 01-24-2019, 04:33 PM  
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:46 AM   #841
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Why would the Jags make that trade?
They wouldn't and the idea that they would even think about it is funny
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:48 AM   #842
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Hoping for average? How about hoping for a defense that can force the other team to do something other than what it wants? Personally, I'd much rather see the defense die by the big play than by 1000 paper cuts. I believe the problem was the players and the system. The message was stale and many of the players looked like they were allergic to tackling.

Is the talent really that much worse than other teams?
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:49 AM   #843
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Dee Ford for Ramsey swap
Probably have to be ford and one of our 2nds atleast to get that done
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:50 AM   #844
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Probably have to be ford and one of our 2nds atleast to get that done
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The Jaguars have too much money invested in the Defense as it is and are really lacking on Offense. How is Dee Ford gonna help balance that out?
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:55 AM   #845
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The Jaguars have too much money invested in the Defense as it is and are really lacking on Offense. How is Dee Ford gonna help balance that out?
They aren’t or won’t want Ford was just saying in general for that to work
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The jags are probably gonna need to unload some of the defensive players so there’s a place you could get some value
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Hoping for average? How about hoping for a defense that can force the other team to do something other than what it wants? Personally, I'd much rather see the defense die by the big play than by 1000 paper cuts. I believe the problem was the players and the system. The message was stale and many of the players looked like they were allergic to tackling.

Is the talent really that much worse than other teams?
I think the talent is well below Baltimore's, but comparable to the middle of the pack.

They're a couple players and an appropriate scheme away from top 10.
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Old 01-25-2019, 12:10 PM   #849
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I think that the mentality of average is good enough is a losing mentality. We better try and build the best D we can and hope it's good enough to make the big stops at the big moments.
How is that a losing mentality? All we need to win a SB is an average D, hell we were inches from being in the SB with a pretty terrible D. **** I hate when people feel like they need to say stupid shit like that "we better try and build the best D we can". No ****ing shit sherlock? You expecting the Chiefs to say "well we did just enough to be average on defense, so we decided to use this draft on
a few guys to help get you through security at the games and a couple of administrative assistants to get Andy's coffee, ever since Brett was promoted Andy's had to get his own"?
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So, Spagnuolo inherited a poor defense in 07 and immediately made it good. And it continued to be good the next season. Then, he inherited a poor defense in NO and turned it into the worst D in the league with a bullet. Next, he inherits a bad NYG defense and again turns it into the worst in the league. But the following year he got it into the top 10. Then back down to 31.

What does this all mean?

Is he a good defensive mind who had terrible personnel at times? Or is a mediocre coach who needs great players to produce?
It could be that he's a Romeo guy. Terrible at managing players (too nice of a guy) but can do fine if a quality head coach keeps the locker room together. Can't blame him for the bountygate disaster in New Orleans. Don't think you can blame him for mcadoo losing the entire locker room in 2017. He seems to me like a good defensive mind, average scheme, good at coaching players but terrible at managing them.
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I can concede things like that, but you have to look at the whole picture here. We are not going to switch from 3-4 to 4-3 in one year like nothing happened.
Yes. We are.

And we will improve because of simply that aspect...regardless of who coordinates the defense. I’m not a fan of the specific hire, but I definetely see how his style and the base defense are better fits for the talent on this team.
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I'm not. You're saying he had a $200m offseason as if they brought in a ton of players. He basically netted 2... Or 2.5 to be fair... Players to a 32 ranked defense. If we add 2 superstars and jump 30 spots id take that in a heartbeat.
JalenRamsey and Collins and a bunch of draft picks chosen to replace high priced stars in the next 2 seasons and LETS GOOOOO
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Why do people like Landon Collins? Dude had one good year and he can’t cover TE’s.
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I’d rather sign Earl Thomas or Amos
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Absolutely. Shooting for 'just good enough' leaves you open to something going wrong ruining your season. During a football season, something will go wrong so you need to be better than average to cover for it.
I highly doubt anyone in the organization is aiming for average.
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