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Old 04-27-2023, 09:51 PM  
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Old 12-22-2023, 07:10 PM   #826
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Seems like a pretty clear redshirt year but id like to see him get some run.
It'd be good to rotate him in a healthy amount in the playoffs. Get a taste of that intensity and experience.
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Old 12-22-2023, 07:46 PM   #827
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Is it truly your position that no successful NFL pass rusher has ever needed development? They all hit the ground running as rookies?

You understand that outside of QB, edge rusher is probably the most difficult positions in terms of transition, right?
Tell me WHY the position is so difficult. You put yer hand in the ground and when the ball is snapped you go around the tackle and go for the QB. How many books do you need to study to do that ?
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Old 12-22-2023, 08:04 PM   #828
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How ****ing hard is it to "GET IT" when you've been rushing the passer all through college. I mean REALLY, how difficult is it. You either have it or you don't. Damn , Veach tossed that pick away!
How many sacks did Karlaftis have through the first half of his rookie season?

FAU would likely have 4 or 5 sacks right now if we weren't loaded at DE.

Karlaftis, Dannie, Omenihu and Jones are all in line for snaps there before FAU gets anything.
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Old 12-22-2023, 08:10 PM   #829
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How ****ing hard is it to "GET IT" when you've been rushing the passer all through college. I mean REALLY, how difficult is it. You either have it or you don't. Damn , Veach tossed that pick away!
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Old 12-22-2023, 08:24 PM   #830
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Old 12-22-2023, 08:28 PM   #831
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How many sacks did Karlaftis have through the first half of his rookie season?

FAU would likely have 4 or 5 sacks right now if we weren't loaded at DE.

Karlaftis, Dannie, Omenihu and Jones are all in line for snaps there before FAU gets anything.
Those guys all need breathers at some point during the game, even as a rookie he should be getting 12-15 snaps per game at this point and we're well past the half point of the season. Every 1st round DE that was worth a damn had some success during year 1. The ones that didn't never amounted to shit. Chalk him up to the garbage pile
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How ****ing hard is it to "GET IT" when you've been rushing the passer all through college. I mean REALLY, how difficult is it. You either have it or you don't. Damn , Veach tossed that pick away!
Well he is only 21 and weighed 255 when drafted. I think a year of development mentally and physically isn't surprising to the Chiefs. If you think there isn't techniques and complex defenses that a player develops in the NFL, then there's no arguing with you.
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I’ll be shocked if he doesn’t have 10 sacks next year. And by shocked, I mean I’ll call for Veach to be fired and his family shamed.
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You spend a 1st round pick for an immediate starter and contributor, not on a player to ‘red-shirt’ and learn. Another wasted high draft pick from Veach.
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You spend a 1st round pick for an immediate starter and contributor, not on a player to ‘red-shirt’ and learn. Another wasted high draft pick from Veach.
I'd say DEs and WRs tend to get until their 2nd season before passing judgement, but more flashes in yr 1 woulda been nice.
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Lot of folks showing they don't understand how the league works and how to plan to keep a team with a QB making so much functional.

Very odd trashing Veach too considering no team in the league has drafted better than him the last 3-4 years relative to where he's picked in comparison.
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What do you think happens when a pass rusher increases their sack total from year 1 to 2? What accounts for their increased production?
Maybe they learn the inside shoulder swipe move and the double spin with hands to the throat.
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How ****ing hard is it to "GET IT" when you've been rushing the passer all through college. I mean REALLY, how difficult is it. You either have it or you don't. Damn , Veach tossed that pick away!
You are so right. No high draft pick who failed to produce immediately was ever valuable in franchise history.

That no 2 overall pick we took that produced 2.5 sacks his rookie year turned out to be a complete bust. The team would have been so much better off if we had ditched Neil.Smith in 1989. He only produced a mere 101.5 more sacks in his career, which were completely worthless

The Chiefs would also have been well served to ditch that DT they took early in the second round after he produced a mere 2.0 sacks his rookie year and 6.0 as a second yr player. Chris Jones is so overvalued it's not funny. He hasn't produced anything worthwhile since.
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