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Old 09-29-2024, 03:10 PM  
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Who should we trade for if Rice is out?
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Old 10-03-2024, 02:02 PM   #826
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Even with Rashee potentially coming back later in the season, Veach needs to be hyperagressive and make that trade. Cooper or Tyreek would be the only guys I'd trade for. Player fits, veterans. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity that we can't squander by playing it safe. Again, I think Tyreek still playing at an elite level will command at minimum a 1st and a 3rd. Will Miami agree? They will surely take the best offer to better their team.
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If they were in fact on Johnson prior to him going to Pitt, that would be a pretty easy trade. He's the ideal guy in that it would fit in nicely after this year if you sign him.
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Old 10-03-2024, 02:16 PM   #828
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If you’re Carolina why trade him? Especially Canales? You just took over, things are much better with Dalton, he’s the best WR on your team currently and you have money.

So you’re throwing away one of your best players in your first year? Huh?
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Old 10-03-2024, 02:16 PM   #829
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If they were in fact on Johnson prior to him going to Pitt, that would be a pretty easy trade. He's the ideal guy in that it would fit in nicely after this year if you sign him.
I wouldn't mind trading for Johnson one bit
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If they were in fact on Johnson prior to him going to Pitt, that would be a pretty easy trade. He's the ideal guy in that it would fit in nicely after this year if you sign him.
3rd for Cooper and the Titans 3rd for Johnson and a 4th (with the Titans pick likely being as high as its going to be, that 3rd/4th pick swap would be the rough equivalent of a mid-3rd in terms of value given up).

Done and done.

I don't want one. I want BOTH.
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Old 10-03-2024, 02:21 PM   #831
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If you’re Carolina why trade him? Especially Canales? You just took over, things are much better with Dalton, he’s the best WR on your team currently and you have money.

So you’re throwing away one of your best players in your first year? Huh?
Best answer I have is that they didn't express much interest in extending him when they got him.

They appeared to have seen him as a piece that could help Bryce Young transition. That clearly didn't work out. So even if they go back to Young, those two didn't have much chemistry to speak of.

So if he's not part of your future, move him.

'Better with Dalton' is still a team picking in the top 1/3 of the draft. And if you can get a top 75 pick to continue to build your roster, why wouldn't you?

The flipside to the 'first year coach' thing is that he should have plenty of runway and unless things are a complete shit-show, he should have until his 3rd year or so before the heat turns up. Moving Johnson for a good pick is absolutely going to help more in that 3rd year than keeping Johnson is going to.

So put the Honeymood Period to use. You've shown enough at this point and in Legette and Mims you have SOMEONE you can still throw to.

I'm not saying it's a given that they'd do it. But there are absolutely reasons to do so.
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If you’re Carolina why trade him? Especially Canales? You just took over, things are much better with Dalton, he’s the best WR on your team currently and you have money.

So you’re throwing away one of your best players in your first year? Huh?
You're not the regime that traded for him and he's an impending FA.

We've seen this play out over and over and over, where dumb teams hold on then let these guys walk. You're gonna have to rebuild the entire roster. Get picks and move forward.
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3rd for Cooper and the Titans 3rd for Johnson and a 4th (with the Titans pick likely being as high as its going to be, that 3rd/4th pick swap would be the rough equivalent of a mid-3rd in terms of value given up).

Done and done.

I don't want one. I want BOTH.
I don't think I'd do both, with the whole "it takes too long to learn" stuff.

But Johnson would pair really well with X and Rice.
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Hmmm not sure I love that, he was traded to the Browns for a 5th and later pick swaps but if it wins us a 3-peat that's probably fine but I'd ask for a 4th round swap or a 5th in return as well.
The thought would be he walks in FA and we get a 3rd round comp for the trouble. I'm sure Browns are thinking the same and is why they agree to just take a 2025 3rd versus 2026 3rd comp pick "value".
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If they were in fact on Johnson prior to him going to Pitt, that would be a pretty easy trade. He's the ideal guy in that it would fit in nicely after this year if you sign him.
He certainly makes the most sense.

There was a common desire for each other and we have like 1 WR (maybe 2) signed past this season.

If Carolina was still trotting out Bryce, maybe. But Dalton has given them a shot in the arm, they aren't giving up on the season. Dionte would have to force his way out.
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Do the Panthers wanna really grease the wheels here? I'd send them our 1st and 3rd if they wanna send us Derrick Brown and Johnson back.
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I think the "no one wants to help Kc out" thing is overblown. Teams not wanting to get value and or draft picks just because it's KC is just dumb business.

The Browns moved Coopers deal around to trade him it appears, whether it gets done or not is another thing.

There's no "good" options at this point. If we're gonna go with "needs to know the playbook" (shit I've used alot of quotation marks in this post)....go throw a 1 at the Dolphins for Tyreek.
Really what I mean by that is we'll have to go above and beyond the best offer, even more so if the deal is inside the conference.

All things equal, someone else is winning the deal.
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Do the Panthers wanna really grease the wheels here? I'd send them our 1st and 3rd if they wanna send us Derrick Brown and Johnson back.
Pretty sure Derrick Brown is dead for the season.
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There's not a team out there looking to do us any favors. Also not a ton of teams out there that are willing to give up on their season this early.

Best bet to get someone other than DeMarcus or MVS/Toney is if Dionte's representation goes to the Panthers and tells them he's not resigning and trade him to KC.

Cleveland isn't smart enough to throw in the towel, IMO

And even then - with both of those guys, we're losing weeks if not months learning the playbook.

So what your saying is that the Buffalo FO has brain damage and we might be able to trick them again....score.
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He certainly makes the most sense.

There was a common desire for each other and we have like 1 WR (maybe 2) signed past this season.

If Carolina was still trotting out Bryce, maybe. But Dalton has given them a shot in the arm, they aren't giving up on the season. Dionte would have to force his way out.
He's a FA after this season and I'm skeptical he'd wanna sign a deal this close to the market but if you got him in here you could make it work.
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