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Old 12-31-2011, 03:52 PM  
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2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread
2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
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With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:53 AM   #8356
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Dayton on 810 now. Says Hochevar is part of the rotation until we can find an alternative. At least he acknowledges we need an alternative.
Well that's interesting and somewhat encouraging.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:09 AM   #8357
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Unbelievably great trade on paper, but so was the Sanchez trade.

We're buying ridiculously low on a veteran starter that has all the incentive in the world to have a great 2013 so he can get a big payday after the season. The upside is he has an awesome year and we acquired him for nothing. The downside is he sucks and we keep throwing him out there every five days because we have no one else to take his starts.
I don't see much similarity between this and the Sanchez trade. We gave up an extremely productive player there. This is a glorified FA signing. Actually, it is less than a FA signing, as the Angels are eating a bit of salary.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:56 AM   #8358
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I wasn't excited about the Santana signing for the same reasons as a few others... but reading some of the more positive opinions and logic it doesn't seem so bad now.

STOP GETTING ME SOMEWHAT EXCITED FOR NEXT SEASON! I'M TRYING TO HAVE LOW EXPECTATIONS!
You can keep those until we see what else is done.

If this is backed up by... Chris Volstad, well, low expectations remain.

If Dayton uses his head and backs it up by acquiring two more pitchers of value, then the expectations can raise a bit.

I mean, say they bring in Anibal Sanchez, Santana and bring back Guthrie. That's a winning collection.

Or Josh Johnson, Santana, Guthrie.

Or even Shields, Santana, and an average guy on a one-year deal.

It's all about where they go form here at this point.
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:04 AM   #8359
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We aren't getting Anibal Sanchez. Who would go from being in the World Series to signing in KC...
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:07 AM   #8360
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We aren't getting Anibal Sanchez. Who would go from being in the World Series to signing in KC...
Might as well of just kick all the Royals fans right in the nads.
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:09 AM   #8361
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Might as well of just kick all the Royals fans right in the nads.
Like we aren't used to that...

Put yourself in his shoes for a sec.

Hey Anibal, KC called. (Anibal gives confused look). Yeah don't worry I just hung up on them.
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:10 AM   #8362
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We aren't getting Anibal Sanchez. Who would go from being in the World Series to signing in KC...
Not saying they would. Just saying that would be an expectation-raising move.

I want them to sign Sanchez. But I have no real strong belief that it will happen.
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:11 AM   #8363
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Not saying they would. Just saying that would be an expectation-raising move.

I want them to sign Sanchez. But I have no real strong belief that it will happen.
I'll bow down to you forever that day forward if it happens.

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More pessimism you all might have heard: Some guy on the radio this morning was speculating that prices for pitchers are going to skyrocket this offseason due to the new MLB TV contract. Guys who would have normally signed for “decent” deals are gonna get paid like aces.

Its probably a reason that some pitchers who were free agents last year signed one-year deals – they knew there could be a goldmine this year.
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Or even Shields, Santana, and an average guy on a one-year deal.
I like this alternative just fine. Maybe Marcum as the average guy? This puts 2 horses at the top that at least give you 200+ innings right off the bat. Wouldn't have to give up the farm for Shields, although it would take giving up some value.
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So, what [realistic] move by GMDM would get you psyched for the Royals in 2013?
I think re-signing Guthrie and ditching Hoch might be enough to do it as this point. Maybe upgrading 2nd base would be realistic as well. I would love to see a 3rd arm added, but having 2 legit top to middle of the rotation guys to start the season would at least get me somewhat excited.
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So, what [realistic] move by GMDM would get you psyched for the Royals in 2013?
"psyched"? 2 more pitchers as potentially good or better than Santana and Hoch out.

"hopeful"? Eh, 1 more to replace Hoch would be enough.
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