Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 554

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

siberian khatru · 07-31-2013, 12:29 PM

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 5m

Deal official: Kennedy from #DBacks to #Padres for Thatcher, Stiles and compensation-round pick.

**RockChalk** · 07-31-2013, 12:29 PM

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siberian khatru · 07-31-2013, 12:30 PM

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 54s

Sources: #Angels likely to keep Kendrick. Can’t find the right match for a starting pitcher. Could revisit in off-season.

Prison Bitch · 07-31-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 54s

Sources: #Angels likely to keep Kendrick. Can’t find the right match for a starting pitcher. Could revisit in off-season.

"Can't find a team willing to deal a legit top-20 pitching prospect and willing to swallow 9M/year in the process"

duncan_idaho · 07-31-2013, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 5m

Deal official: Kennedy from #DBacks to #Padres for Thatcher, Stiles and compensation-round pick.

Could have matched/topped that. Crap.

**alnorth** · 07-31-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I think GMDM is making the right move. The only way I could see it being worth while for the Royals if they were able to acquire someone for the long run. It's not worth mortgaging the future for a PO run for a team that is on the fringe of being in the hunt. A month from now could be a different story, which could lead to Santana being dealt if they fall out of the hunt or see them acquire a rental if they are a game or 2 back from a WC or the division.

The trading deadline is in 90 minutes. We can't deal Santana later unless he clears waivers, and there's no way that happens.

siberian khatru · 07-31-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Could have matched/topped that. Crap.

I wonder if DM was even sniffing it.

Cephalic Trauma · 07-31-2013, 12:34 PM

Balls.

SO excited for a little over .500, no playoffs, and a comp pick heading into 2014!

tk13 · 07-31-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Yep, this.

Frankly I feel like us winning 9 of 11 to start the second half completely sent GMDM into a tailspin. We play well and show signs of life at a time he totally didn't expect it, and he is caught with his pants down in regards to improving the team THIS season to make a run. Maybe (hopefully) I'm completely wrong and we'll make a move soon, but it just doesn't have the "feel" of us getting anything done.

Yeah, but that's how it's felt across the board today ... it's weird. So far today's highlight is a guy with a 5+ ERA getting traded to a 50-58 team.
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penbrook · 07-31-2013, 12:36 PM

Per Jim Bowden

Angels have had alot of action on Kendrick including: Blue Jays, Royals & Dodgers...they expect talks to continue thru day

Cephalic Trauma · 07-31-2013, 12:37 PM

Detoilet winning 9-1.

silver5liter · 07-31-2013, 12:37 PM

Kendricks agent says he hasnt talked to anyone about waiving the no trade clause though.

silver5liter · 07-31-2013, 12:38 PM

@Ken_Rosenthal Sources: Angels likely to keep Kendrick. Can’t find the right match for a starter. Could revisit in off-season.

welp

**alnorth** · 07-31-2013, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

Yep, this.

Frankly I feel like us winning 9 of 11 to start the second half completely sent GMDM into a tailspin. We play well and show signs of life at a time he totally didn't expect it, and he is caught with his pants down in regards to improving the team THIS season to make a run. Maybe (hopefully) I'm completely wrong and we'll make a move soon, but it just doesn't have the "feel" of us getting anything done.

Well, lets keep it in perspective. As of this morning, the odds of making the playoffs were still roughly 2%. (which is why some people wanted to give up 2013, trade Santana, and focus on 2014)

We're in no-man's land. Close enough so that for business reasons we can't sell because the fans would freak, but we're not close enough to do anything too crazy for 2013 because statistically we're just not there, barring a lot of luck.

siberian khatru · 07-31-2013, 12:41 PM

Typical Royals: Even when things are going unusually good, they're also going bad.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1889692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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