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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 12-31-2011, 01:25 PM   #8221
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They are terrible Saul. MU rolled them. As they should have.
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Old 12-31-2011, 01:37 PM   #8222
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They are terrible Saul. MU rolled them. As they should have.
They aren't terrible. They are pretty average for a BCS team, though. Two games earlier, they went to Virginia Tech and lost by a field goal. 3 of their 5 losses coming into the game were against ranked teams, and Mizzou will finish the season ranked as well.

That said, Mizzou scored 31 points in the first half. UNC only gave up more than 31 in a GAME twice all year.
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Old 12-31-2011, 01:47 PM   #8223
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LOL They were 3-5 in the ACC. Yeah that's not terrible.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:04 PM   #8224
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LOL They were 3-5 in the ACC. Yeah that's not terrible.
The ACC was good enough to get 2 BCS teams.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:06 PM   #8225
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LOL They were 3-5 in the ACC. Yeah that's not terrible.
Terrible is Kansas...UNC was an average team with coaching problems and a good defense. They got rolled in their bowl by a superior Mizzou squad.

No one is saying UNC is a great team or anything, but they finished above .500 and had some close games against ranked opponents.

It was a good win for Mizzou to finish out their play in the Big 12. Brighter days are ahead.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:08 PM   #8226
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The ACC was good enough to get 2 BCS teams.
You believe they were deserving of this?
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:38 PM   #8227
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LOL They were 3-5 in the ACC. Yeah that's not terrible.
They're no Northwestern.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:47 PM   #8228
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The ACC is the All Cupcake Conference. They got 2 BCS spots because everyone else in the deserving conferences sucked it up this year. OU, OSU, Nebraska, etc didn't perform. I guarantee any one of them get in before another ACC team besides VT.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:48 PM   #8229
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They're no Northwestern.
You're right Northwestern would beat them.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:51 PM   #8230
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I dont have anything against A&M (they let us win so many games) but it would have been cool to see Northwestern win that. I like their coach.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:52 PM   #8231
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You're right Northwestern would beat them.
Doubtful since the only bowl-eligible team Northwestern can beat is Nuhbraska.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:55 PM   #8232
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Doubtful since the only bowl-eligible team Northwestern can beat is Nuhbraska.
It would have been more impressive had it been powerhouse Mizzou. You guys are great at playing victim too.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:26 PM   #8233
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You're right Northwestern would beat them.
Yeah, Northwestern looked like a real power getting rolled up by aTm today.
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Old 12-31-2011, 08:46 PM   #8234
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They aren't terrible. They are pretty average for a BCS team, though. Two games earlier, they went to Virginia Tech and lost by a field goal. 3 of their 5 losses coming into the game were against ranked teams, and Mizzou will finish the season ranked as well.

That said, Mizzou scored 31 points in the first half. UNC only gave up more than 31 in a GAME twice all year.
I think they are terrible. MU rolled them. As they should have. I'm not demeaning the win. MU blew them out. That's exactly what a good (possibly underachieving) MU team should do to a squad like UNC.
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Old 12-31-2011, 08:47 PM   #8235
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I take that back. I don't think MU underachieved. I think they are breaking in the QB that will take them farther than any of their previous very good QB's.
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