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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:22 PM   #8191
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FWIW, I think it's great that the Missouri basketball team is doing so well this year, but I still don't like basketball.

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Old 12-21-2011, 01:25 PM   #8192
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You should probably get a better football team then if it's that important to you.
It's hard to get better when your biggest rivalry game is the worst team in major conference football. I mean, when you circle the Jayhawks on the schedule, its hard to get players to work to get better.

Thanks for your concern. You'll be happy to know that we have taken steps to resolve this problem. What's more is that, a few years from now, no BCS teams will have to worry about playing conference games against KU. That will be the MWC's problem.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:30 PM   #8193
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It's hard to get better when your biggest rivalry game is the worst team in major conference football. I mean, when you circle the Jayhawks on the schedule, its hard to get players to work to get better.

Thanks for your concern. You'll be happy to know that we have taken steps to resolve this problem. What's more is that, a few years from now, no BCS teams will have to worry about playing conference games against KU. That will be the MWC's problem.
Yeah, the last 3 years have been pretty bad over here. I don't think it's anything that can't be fixed. Not having enough TVs, though, that part might be kind of rough. I have no doubt that KU can be as good at football as MU with the right coaching hire. We could never match schools with tradition (like Nebraska, Oklahoma, etc) but we can certainly match MU.
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:44 AM   #8194
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Awwww.....thanks, LSU



I'm sure UT did that when we were in the Cotton Bowl, right?

Pretty class move from LSU to get their local fanbase excited about the new kids.
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:55 AM   #8195
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Awwww.....thanks, LSU



I'm sure UT did that when we were in the Cotton Bowl, right?

Pretty class move from LSU to get their local fanbase excited about the new kids.
Texas did the same thing, but their mascot was facing the other direction and holding up a different finger in the photo.
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:57 AM   #8196
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:41 AM   #8197
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:43 AM   #8198
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That's pretty cool.

I doubt if they'll be quite so cordial the first time we play them, though.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:45 AM   #8199
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That's pretty cool.

I doubt if they'll be quite so cordial the first time we play them, though.
I hope not.

Opposing fans are only friendly when they kick your ass. If you walk out of there with a W, you're best served to keep your head down, get in your car and get gone.

Well, unless they're Baylor fans. Those guys just seem to be dicks either way. **** Baylor fans, man.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:49 AM   #8200
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When I was in the deep south recently, it was widely understood that LSU at night is the best atmosphere/ but LSU also has the worst fans. (Pissing on people wearing opposing team's gear and such.)
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:53 AM   #8201
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:08 AM   #8202
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When I was in the deep south recently, it was widely understood that LSU at night is the best atmosphere/ but LSU also has the worst fans. (Pissing on people wearing opposing team's gear and such.)
Yeah, I've heard LSU fans can be absolute pricks.

Then again, it's Louisiana. That place pretty much sucks in general.

I think I'll go once just to say I went, but LSU isn't exactly high on my list of desired destinations.
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:12 AM   #8203
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:20 AM   #8204
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Yeah, I've heard LSU fans can be absolute pricks.

Then again, it's Louisiana. That place pretty much sucks in general.

I think I'll go once just to say I went, but LSU isn't exactly high on my list of desired destinations.
I'm told its a must experience. Just don't wear Mizzou gear to the game.
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