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Old 03-22-2024, 08:53 PM  
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Old 03-25-2024, 11:31 AM   #796
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Did you revisit what was taking place on the football field when you had that take?

The Kansas City Chiefs were off to a historically bad start under Spags at the time he was under fire. Sticking to his guns on guys like Hitchens, Sorenson, Niemann, and playing Chris Jones out of position with no adequate replacement in the middle led to a 100% red zone failure rate for what was it, 8 games?

Reach the 20, you're guaranteed points.

The decisions that Steve Spagnuolo was making with the personnel group that he had simply were not good decisions at the time, and he was rightfully criticized at the time.

How anyone would fault themselves for wanting a guy fired for putting out an NFL historically bad product is beyond me.

Andy stuck with his guy because that's what he does, and some players were added, some players got more time in the game, and some players got broomed and it all worked out later.

But make no mistake about it, anyone wanting Spags fired for that abysmal performance wasn't wrong. The NFL is a what have you done for me lately business, and at that time he was under fire, he was doing a horrific job with the defense.

There's no shame in calling it out. He sucked.
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Old 03-25-2024, 11:32 AM   #797
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The reality is that, with 3 SBs in 5 years, the rest of the league isn’t going to help the Chiefs in player for picks trades.

Hill, a likely HOFer, was the exception and probably a cautionary tale against giving us draft capital.
To be fair, Chiefs players have a lot more wear and tear than most
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Old 03-25-2024, 11:34 AM   #798
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Mike Florio with NBC Sports was also confused by the Chiefs’ decision and thinks the front office might have flirted with breaking Collective Bargaining Agreement rules on the matter. Florio suggests the Chiefs didn’t intend to extend Sneed when they placed the franchise tag on him, which isn’t allowed under the current rules set by the NFLPA
It's good to know what Florio thinks so I can conclude that the exact opposite is true.
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Old 03-25-2024, 11:35 AM   #799
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You have to remember that as a GM in the NFL your enemy is not the Chiefs. Your enemy is every other team in the league. Anyone that refuses to make themselves better because they're afraid of what the Chiefs might do with a pick is destined for failure. The Titans saw fit to trade a 2025 3rd round pick for him, so anyone else that would have been made better with Sneed has to live with the fact that they refused to give up anything better than the Titan's 3rd round pick in 2025 to get him. You worry about making your own team better at the least possible expense and everything else is secondary.
That's how it SHOULD be but it's not. In the last five to six years you make a strong case as to say the Chiefs are the only team that has been "winning." Much of the thr rest is tributes to Tom Brady (on two different teams) and a one year (loaded up to fail later) wonder by the Rams.

So no, the Chiefs are the one team to don't make better. Trading with them high pucks makes less sense than trading with a division rival.
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Old 03-25-2024, 11:43 AM   #801
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It always kinda cracks me up when the "why'd we trade him for that, we got fleeced" starts.

Do we not think they got the most they could have? Why wouldn't they?

He had more leverage here than some thought I guess. With the new contract, he could basically veto trades to teams if he said he woudln't sign new deals.
There are those of us that think you just hold onto him instead of taking peanuts.
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Old 03-25-2024, 11:45 AM   #802
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Something I've been thinking about this morning, I can't believe I ever wanted Spags gone. That take was so hilariously bad and I'm so happy to be wrong.
Dude....why would you have ever thought that?
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There are those of us that think you just hold onto him instead of taking peanuts.
After the Chris Jones saga, they probably didn't wanna mess with him not showing up for camp and such drama that comes with being tagged.
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Webcrawler? and Chris Jones
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To be fair, Chiefs players have a lot more wear and tear than most
Good and bad at the same time. I'll take the wear and tare tho. Not many tears recently compared to my last 50 years tho.
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There are those of us that think you just hold onto him instead of taking peanuts.
you forgot to equate the $19.6 million...
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There are those of us that think you just hold onto him instead of taking peanuts.
What do you guys not understand about this? It’s not financially responsible, especially after they caved and gave Chris Jones a **** ton of money.

They had to choose who they were paying and it wasn’t Sneed
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Moving CJ out to DE was a bad move for sure. I wonder if CJ had been lobbying for it and midway through the season both CJ and Spags realized it was a big mistake.

The silver lining is that it led to CJ being able to freelance and pick anywhere on the line to rush from, which HAS worked out in the long run.
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you forgot to equate the $19.6 million...
Puff, Cash bonus could have been used. I mean that would be like change in our pockets to Clark.
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Tyreek Hill is a unicorn special player, there will never be another one of him, Sneed isn't that guy.
Sneed gave Tyreek a very difficult time in 2 games last year. That’s pretty special stuff considering how difficult it is to slow down Tyreek.
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