Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 536

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**Saul Good** · 12-03-2011, 12:48 PM

I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm inclined to believe that it's a likely scenario even if Mongo is just making it up. I don't see any reason that Texas would want to stay in the Big IIX.

If this does go down, the ACC phone lines will be blowing up with desperate leftover teams.

**Saul Good** · 12-03-2011, 12:48 PM

I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm inclined to believe that it's a likely scenario even if Mongo is just making it up. I don't see any reason that Texas would want to stay in the Big IIX.

If this does go down, the ACC phone lines will be blowing up with desperate leftover teams.

duncan_idaho · 12-03-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

http://blogs.dailymail.com/wvu/2011/...to-do-for-wvu/

That article asserts that all 10 Big IIX teams had signed the grant of rights at the point, but it was posted on November 2 - before Missouri's move to the SEC was announced.

It has been clearly stated by Missouri officials that Mizzou never granted its rights to the Big 12. That means this blog is inaccurate in that at least. What else is wrong? Hard to say how many teams actually signed the grant of rights.

kstater · 12-03-2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

That article asserts that all 10 Big IIX teams had signed the grant of rights at the point, but it was posted on November 2 - before Missouri's move to the SEC was announced.

It has been clearly stated by Missouri officials that Mizzou never granted its rights to the Big 12. That means this blog is inaccurate in that at least. What else is wrong? Hard to say how many teams actually signed the grant of rights.

It was referring to 9 and 10 being TCU and WVU. Which, as of the meeting on Nov 1, had both been accepted and signed over rights on the day of that article.

I'll bow out of this thread while I watch KSU do their part to win a share of something Missouri hasn't done in 40 years.

**DeezNutz** · 12-03-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

It was referring to 9 and 10 being TCU and WVU. Which, as of the meeting on Nov 1, had both been accepted and signed over rights on the day of that article.

I'll bow out of this thread while I watch KSU do their part to win a share of something Missouri hasn't done in 40 years.

KSU has had a great year, no question. But it will have to be meaningful in the short term for KSU to "share" a conference title with the two teams that beat the Wildcats during conference play.

Clearly, you're on par with OSU and OU this year.

eazyb81 · 12-03-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

I'm not making any judgements about that poster. I'm making judgments about your logic.

Can we assume that TTRaider (as in T[exas]T[ech][Red]R[aider]) is getting his historically-reliable inside info because he has connections inside Texas Tech? It seems likely. If so, then you shouldn't then also claim that Texas Tech is "just along for the ride," lacking knowledge of "behind the scenes" goings-on.

I think it is a mistake to assume he is a Texas Tech insider or even fan just because of his handle. If someone has legit inside info, they are likely to be very careful to not leak their true identity.

How would a Texas Tech insider have such accurate info on Mizzou's move to the SEC, including dates of when Mizzou when hold a press conference? Why would a Tech insider only post this info on a Mizzou board? That doesn't make any sense. TTRaider could just as easily be a higher-up at Mizzou or Texas.

duncan_idaho · 12-03-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

I'll bow out of this thread while I watch KSU do their part to win a share of something Missouri hasn't done in 40 years.

Enjoy the Moutain West/CUSA.

LiveSteam · 12-03-2011, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

I'll bow out of this thread while I watch KSU do their part to win a share of something Missouri hasn't done in 40 years.

Did you enjoy that sack

duncan_idaho · 12-03-2011, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam

Did you enjoy that sack

Probably about as much as he enjoyed that TD pass.

**Bowser** · 12-03-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

I'll bow out of this thread while I watch KSU do their part to win a share of something Missouri hasn't done in 40 years.

You mean give a shit what a pissed off K-State fan thinks? *high fives Mizzou fans*

**Reaper16** · 12-03-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

I think it is a mistake to assume he is a Texas Tech insider or even fan just because of his handle. If someone has legit inside info, they are likely to be very careful to not leak their true identity.

How would a Texas Tech insider have such accurate info on Mizzou's move to the SEC, including dates of when Mizzou when hold a press conference? Why would a Tech insider only post this info on a Mizzou board? That doesn't make any sense. TTRaider could just as easily be a higher-up at Mizzou or Texas.

That's reasonable.

**Saul Good** · 12-03-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

That's reasonable.

Agreed. I'd put more stock into his posting history than his user name.

Mr. Plow · 12-03-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm inclined to believe that it's a likely scenario even if Mongo is just making it up. I don't see any reason that Texas would want to stay in the Big IIX.

If this does go down, the ACC phone lines will be blowing up with desperate leftover teams.

Wait, I thought Texas wanted to stay in the Big 12 because everyone in the conference did whatever Texas wanted them to do?

**Saul Good** · 12-03-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Wait, I thought Texas wanted to stay in the Big 12 because everyone in the conference did whatever Texas wanted them to do?

It's not so great having crappy teams that bring no value doing your bidding. Without Denver, Omaha, Kansas City, Saint Louis, and the aTm fanbase, it's not the same.

Mr. Plow · 12-03-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

It's not so great having crappy teams that bring no value doing your bidding. Without Denver, Omaha, Kansas City, Saint Louis, and the aTm fanbase, it's not the same.

That's probably true. I've always thought Texas wanted to be the "big dog" in the conference - not sure that be that going to Pac 12.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $746966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm inclined to believe that it's a likely scenario even if Mongo is just making it up. I don't see any reason that Texas would want to stay in the Big IIX. If this does go down, the ACC phone lines will be blowing up with desperate leftover teams. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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12-03-2011, 12:48 PM	#8027
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm inclined to believe that it's a likely scenario even if Mongo is just making it up. I don't see any reason that Texas would want to stay in the Big IIX. If this does go down, the ACC phone lines will be blowing up with desperate leftover teams. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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