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Discussion: All things Broncos.

[htismaqe]

Bronco fan talking about double standards. That's ****ing rich.

[Pepe Silvia]

The Broncos fans didn't want to count the Chiefs SB 4 trophy because it was pre merger now suddenly they want them to count for the Packers?

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

You guys just don't get it. I'm not sure why, but you don't.

I'll explain s l o w l y . . .

I'm a Mensa boy. You need to listen to me. I'm smarter than all of you. I just did something dumb. Don't you know that doing dumb things proves I'm in Mensa?? LISTEN TO ME!!!! I'M SMART I TELL YOU!!

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by RedinTexas

14 teams in the league in 1965. Nearly 2.5 times as many in the league now.

Also, of those 3 NFL championships GB won in mid 60s, 2 were played at Lambeau. Winning at home is always easier than on the road.

Ok, the home field is a good point.

The number of teams, that echoes some of the points I made about leaving AFL games out of some analyses ... so I got to admit that more teams in the League now is also persuasive.

I guess I'd respond that I wasn't saying the Packers 3-Peat was as impressive as the one your Chiefs might get, just that it WAS a 3-Peat.

[ReynardMuldrake]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I got news for you - The second and third of those three weren't called Super Bowls either, not until two years later. Which proves even further that it's all about names, not about a true 3-Peat record.

It's a double standard on your part, plain and simple. A completely understandable double standard, in that your Chiefs-centric narrow minds badly want to believe you'll be the "First Ever," and the NFL's Promo Machine is working overtime to drive your thinking in that direction, so it's understandable. But it's still a double standard.

The entire concept of the Super Bowl was to have the conference champions play each other to determine which conference came out on top. The name is entirely irrelevant.

Comparing conference championships to Super Bowls is not a valid comparison. You are equating two different things.

[ReynardMuldrake]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I got news for you - The second and third of those three weren't called Super Bowls either, not until two years later. Which proves even further that it's all about names, not about a true 3-Peat record.

It's a double standard on your part, plain and simple. A completely understandable double standard, in that your Chiefs-centric narrow minds badly want to believe you'll be the "First Ever," and the NFL's Promo Machine is working overtime to drive your thinking in that direction, so it's understandable. But it's still a double standard.

Shit, by your own logic we just three-peated yesterday. That's three consecutive conference championships.

JUST LIKE THE PACKERS DID

[FlaChief58]

Mestrual boy doesn't understand superbowl victory's vs pre superbowl championships. I gotta say, I'm not surprised.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I just realized how hypocritical Planet Chiefs fans are.

You all whine and complain when I did a stats dive starting: Day 1 in the NFL all the way to Mahomes' first start. And the whining began:

"No BroncoBuff, no! You're cutting out all our best years!"

Well I guess I'm not the only one. You and the NFL promo hucksters are going full-bore on a potential "first ever three-peat!"

Nope. The Green Bay Packers ALREADY accomplished that! They won THREE championships in a row, the second and third of which were followed by winning the "AFL-NFL World Championship Game" ... only later retro-actively called "Super Bowl I and II."

Same thing. You cry to me about "skipping our best years," so don't skip the Packers' THREE-PEAT. You might still "three-repeat," you just won't be the first

1) No team's won three straight Super Bowls.

2) Now that you count old championships, we definitely have to count all those wins over the Broncos.

Hate to do this to you, but.....73-57.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by TEX

** Denver Broncos (Cheating Donx) violated the salary cap during 2 Super Bowl seasons

Oh man ... you guys are SO easy to trigger!

I've been all over the Internet, a dozen or more football message boards, and dozens more sports sites, and this place is the first time I've heard those violations mentioned in at least 10 years, probably longer.

Guys, THE LEAGUE makes the rules, not you. We win those two Super Bowls, end of story. You're like Trump after Biden had already taken office, STILL CRYING the election was stolen.

Guys, it's over! And you wonder why I call you obsessed ....

Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia

The Broncos fans didn't want to count the Chiefs SB 4 trophy because it was pre merger now suddenly they want them to count for the Packers?

Thanks for making my point for me, albeit in a backwards way.

You guys all DEMAND I COUNT AFL GAMES! But when I point out all the 3-Peat hype (a record your team doesn't even have yet), is just hype because the Packers already accomplished it, suddenly NOW you want to exclude that accomplishment. Exclude just ONE YEAR, the other two years you're ok with, right?

[tooge]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

You guys just don't get it. I'm not sure why, but you don't.

I'll explain s l o w l y . . .

.

1. I posted a statistic analysis that counted just NFL games
2. I also post our teams' H2H should best be seen in NFL games only, leaving out the 19-1 in the intentionally uneven, non-competitive AFL
3. You guys CRY OUT "No BroncoBuff, no!" You can't leave out AFL games, that's the OTHER time we were good!"
4. Oh, but NOW - now you're FINE with excluding other records merely because they're NAMED differently: "No BroncoBuff, no! The first of those three wasn't even called "Super Bowl!'"

I got news for you - The second and third of those three weren't called Super Bowls either, not until two years later. Which proves even further that it's all about names, not about a true 3-Peat record.

It's a double standard on your part, plain and simple. A completely understandable double standard, in that your Chiefs-centric narrow minds badly want to believe you'll be the "First Ever," and the NFL's Promo Machine is working overtime to drive your thinking in that direction, so it's understandable. But it's still a double standard.

Anything before the NFL/AFL merger doesn't count when comparing Superbowls, sorry. This is a fact: The Kansas City Chiefs are the first team ever to play in two Superbowls in a row and play in a third with a chance to 3 peat.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Oh man ... you guys are SO easy to trigger!

Guys, THE LEAGUE makes the rules, not you. We win those two Super Bowls, end of story. You're like Trump after Biden had already taken office, STILL CRYING the election was stolen.

And the League found the violations provided NO COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE. They didn't say that per se, but when the Cowboys and Redskins violated the cap during the infamous "uncapped 2010 season," the League didn't hesitate one second calling them violations that were intended to create competitive advantages. AND they penalized those teams FAR more than they did the Broncos.

So there.

[tooge]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Oh man ... you guys are SO easy to trigger!

I've been all over the Internet, a dozen or more football message boards, and dozens more sports sites, and this place is the first time I've heard those violations mentioned in at least 10 years, probably longer.

Guys, THE LEAGUE makes the rules, not you. We win those two Super Bowls, end of story. You're like Trump after Biden had already taken office, STILL CRYING the election was stolen.

Guys, it's over! And you wonder why I call you obsessed ....




Thanks for making my point for me, albeit in a backwards way.

You guys all DEMAND I COUNT AFL GAMES! But when I point out all the 3-Peat hype (a record your team doesn't even have yet), is just hype because the Packers already accomplished it, suddenly NOW you want to exclude that accomplishment. Exclude just ONE YEAR, the other two years you're ok with, right?

The NFL fined the Broncos a 3rd round pick for circumventing the salary cap in 1997 and 1998. That is a fact. Without doing so, they wouldn't have been able to bring back Elway, Davis, Sharpe, and several other key players. So, in everyone elses mind, they cheated to win a couple of SBs and the cheating is legitimized by the penalty imposed by the NFL

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by tooge

Anything before the NFL/AFL merger doesn't count when comparing Superbowls, sorry. This is a fact: The Kansas City Chiefs are the first team ever to play in two Superbowls in a row and play in a third with a chance to 3 peat.

No, there were FOUR Super Bowls before the merger. Sorry to keep correcting you guys. If you don't like it, stop making mistakes.

And there HAS been one 3-Peat before ... it definitely WAS a 3-Peat. Only difference is the first of the 3 wasn't called a "Super Bowl."

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

No, there were FOUR Super Bowls before the merger. Sorry to keep correcting you guys. If you don't like it, stop making mistakes.

And there HAS been one 3-Peat before ... it definitely WAS a 3-Peat. Only difference is the first of the 3 wasn't called a "Super Bowl."

Who was it that was arguing that all of the Chiefs wins against the Broncos before the merger didn't count? Was that you?

ETA - I had to go back quite a ways, but yes, it actually was you that claimed it wasn't right to count the Chiefs' wins against the Broncos that occurred before the merger. So, tell us Mensa boy, what is your take on the merger? Do we count stuff from before the merger, or not? Take a stand and stick to it. Don't switch back and forth to suit whatever argument you happen to be currently making.

[FlaChief58]

Funny, I don't see a green bay threepeat listed below.

LeadersSuper Bowl WinnersSuper Bowl MVPs
Super Bowl Winners and Results
NO. DATE SITE RESULT
I Jan. 15, 1967 Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum Green Bay 35, Kansas City 10
II Jan. 14, 1968 Orange Bowl (Miami) Green Bay 33, Oakland 14
III Jan. 12, 1969 Orange Bowl (Miami) New York Jets 16, Baltimore 7
IV Jan. 11, 1970 Tulane Stadium (New Orleans) Kansas City 23, Minnesota 7
V Jan. 17, 1971 Orange Bowl (Miami) Baltimore 16, Dallas 13
VI Jan. 16, 1972 Tulane Stadium (New Orleans) Dallas 24, Miami 3
VII Jan. 14, 1973 Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum Miami 14, Washington 7
VIII Jan. 13, 1974 Rice Stadium (Houston) Miami 24, Minnesota 7
IX Jan. 12, 1975 Tulane Stadium (New Orleans) Pittsburgh 16, Minnesota 6
X Jan. 18, 1976 Orange Bowl (Miami) Pittsburgh 21, Dallas 17
XI Jan. 9, 1977 Rose Bowl (Pasadena, Calif.) Oakland 32, Minnesota 14
XII Jan. 15, 1978 Superdome (New Orleans) Dallas 27, Denver 10
XIII Jan. 21, 1979 Orange Bowl (Miami) Pittsburgh 35, Dallas 31
XIV Jan. 20, 1980 Rose Bowl (Pasadena, Calif.) Pittsburgh 31, Los Angeles Rams 19
XV Jan. 25, 1981 Superdome (New Orleans) Oakland 27, Philadelphia 10
XVI Jan. 24, 1982 Silverdome (Pontiac, Mich.) San Francisco 26, Cincinnati 21
XVII Jan. 30, 1983 Rose Bowl (Pasadena, Calif.) Washington 27, Miami 17
XVIII Jan. 22, 1984 Tampa (Fla.) Stadium Los Angeles Raiders 38, Washington 9
XIX Jan. 20, 1985 Stanford (Calif.) Stadium San Francisco 38, Miami 16
XX Jan. 26, 1986 Superdome (New Orleans) Chicago 46, New England 10
XXI Jan. 25, 1987 Rose Bowl (Pasadena, Calif.) New York Giants 39, Denver 20
XXII Jan. 31, 1988 Jack Murphy Stadium (San Diego) Washington 42, Denver 10
XXIII Jan. 22, 1989 Joe Robbie Stadium (Miami) San Francisco 20, Cincinnati 16
XXIV Jan. 28, 1990 Superdome (New Orleans) San Francisco 55, Denver 10
XXV Jan. 27, 1991 Tampa (Fla.) Stadium New York Giants 20, Buffalo 19
XXVI Jan. 26, 1992 Metrodome (Minneapolis) Washington 37, Buffalo 24
XXVII Jan. 31, 1993 Rose Bowl (Pasadena, Calif.) Dallas 52, Buffalo 17
XXVIII Jan. 30, 1994 Georgia Dome (Atlanta) Dallas 30, Buffalo 13
XXIX Jan. 29, 1995 Joe Robbie Stadium (Miami) San Francisco 49, San Diego 26
XXX Jan. 28, 1996 Sun Devil Stadium (Tempe, Ariz.) Dallas 27, Pittsburgh 17
XXXI Jan. 26, 1997 Superdome (New Orleans) Green Bay 35, New England 21
XXXII Jan. 25, 1998 Qualcomm Stadium (San Diego) Denver 31, Green Bay 24
XXXIII Jan. 31, 1999 Pro Player Stadium (Miami) Denver 34, Atlanta 19
XXXIV Jan. 30, 2000 Georgia Dome (Atlanta) St. Louis 23, Tennessee 16
XXXV Jan. 28, 2001 Raymond James Stadium (Tampa, Fla.) Baltimore 34, New York Giants 7
XXXVI Feb. 3, 2002 Superdome (New Orleans) New England 20, St. Louis 17
XXXVII Jan. 26, 2003 Qualcomm Stadium (San Diego) Tampa Bay 48, Oakland 21
XXXVIII Feb. 1, 2004 Reliant Stadium (Houston) New England 32, Carolina 29
XXXIX Feb. 6, 2005 Alltel Stadium (Jacksonville, Fla.) New England 24, Philadelphia 21
XL Feb. 5, 2006 Ford Field (Detroit) Pittsburgh 21, Seattle 10
XLI Feb. 4, 2007 Dolphin Stadium (Miami) Indianapolis 29, Chicago 17
XLII Feb. 3, 2008 University of Phoenix Stadium (Glendale, Ariz.) New York Giants 17, New England 14
XLIII Feb. 1, 2009 Raymond James Stadium (Tampa, Fla.) Pittsburgh 27, Arizona 23
XLIV Feb. 7, 2010 Sun Life Stadium (Miami) New Orleans 31, Indianapolis 17
XLV Feb. 6, 2011 Cowboys Stadium (Arlington, Texas) Green Bay 31, Pittsburgh 25
XLVI Feb. 5, 2012 Lucas Oil Stadium (Indianapolis) New York Giants 21, New England 17
XLVII Feb. 3, 2013 Mercedes-Benz Superdome (New Orleans) Baltimore 34, San Francisco 31
XLVIII Feb. 2, 2014 MetLife Stadium (East Rutherford, N.J.) Seattle 43, Denver 8
XLIX Feb. 1, 2015 University of Phoenix Stadium (Glendale, Ariz.) New England 28, Seattle 24
50 Feb. 7, 2016 Levi's Stadium (Santa Clara, Calif.) Denver 24, Carolina 10
LI Feb. 5, 2017 NRG Stadium (Houston) New England 34, Atlanta 28
LII Feb. 4, 2018 U.S. Bank Stadium (Minneapolis) Philadelphia 41, New England 33
LIII Feb. 3, 2019 Mercedes-Benz Stadium (Atlanta) New England 13, Los Angeles Rams 3
LIV Feb. 2, 2020 Hard Rock Stadium (Miami) Kansas City 31, San Francisco 20
LV Feb. 7, 2021 Raymond James Stadium (Tampa, Fla.) Tampa Bay 31, Kansas City 9
LVI Feb. 13, 2022 SoFi Stadium (Inglewood, Calif.) Los Angeles Rams 23, Cincinnati 20
LVII Feb. 12, 2023 State Farm Stadium (Glendale, Ariz.) Kansas City 38, Philadelphia 35
LVIII Feb. 11, 2024 Allegiant Stadium (Las Vegas) Kansas City 25, San Francisco 22
LIX Feb. 9, 2025 Caesars Superdome (New Orleans