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[brdempsey69]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Really? Well, all I'm really telling anyone is that I can't answer counter-points that refute my idiotic statements & I still haven't figured it out that Chiefs fans don't care what Donktards like me think of KC and that my input has no value whatsoever.

Fixed.

Donkeys all-time SB record is 0 wins, 5 losses, and 3 given to them as going-away presents (two to Turd Elway and one to 5-head Manning).

And why did Elway's throwing style look like Elway was pulling a turd out of his back pocket...especially compared to just about every other QB that played the game that anyone can think of ?!

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

He was not involved in that, he found out after the fact.

He just tried to cover it up.

That’s like saying Paterno didn’t molest those children, he just tried to cover it up

[rydogg58]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

lots of words to cover up the fact that the Chiefs make me cry.

I literally fell asleep halfway through that latest book you wrote.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by brdempsey69

Try again, idiot. If Payton tried to cover it up, that DOES make him complicit.

Why was Payton trying to cover it up, if he wasn't involved, instead of taking disciplinary action against those involved? <---- You didn't stop to consider that, now did you?

No, I "stopped to consider everything" like always, Mr. Dunning. Sean was complicit in the coverup, that's what I said. You didn't read my post. Same with you, Mr. Krueger - error, notorious.

I said he found out after the fact. TRUE.
I said he tried to cover it up. Also TRUE.

He did a bit more than that ... he lied to the commissioner a couple times, and kinda conspired with his defensive coaches so they all had the "same story." And the commissioner thought he didn't do enough to keep his staff in line, also after the fact.

That all might be true, but after the commissioner's conduct and lies in the Ray Rice and Jon Gruden situations, I can't pretend to respect his adjudication of these kinds of issues.

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Can’t wait to flush these turds again next season. And hearing their elaborate reasons for how they should have won after the Chiefs actually beat them.

Flush us "again?!" How far you going back for that Mr. Krueger? That blocked FG did you a bigger favor than you realize. If you hadn't blocked it, Broncos would be riding a three-game win streak against Chiefs right now. But you didn't stop to consider that, did you Brewster?

Chiefs won the game, fair and square. But nobody "flushed" nobody. Yes, you "actually beat us," by the width of a wrist. Congratulations.


And if that wrist swung a couple inches off, that would've meant we draw a more winnable Wild Card game, @ Houston. Win that one and it would have been us in Narrowhead yesterday, pushing for a 4-game win streak.

And while we're at it, your 16-game win streak against the Broncos was embarrassing, true. But we won 13 of the 17 before that.

What's that you say? "No BroncoBuff, no! You can't throw away all the other games and look just at our bad points!"

Yeah right.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by rydogg58

I literally fell asleep halfway through that latest book you wrote.

That's too bad ... you could've learned something.

[rydogg58]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

That's too bad ... you could've learned something.

I stayed awake through that latest post. I learned you're a ****ing moron.

[PHOG]

If you hadn't blocked it, Broncos would be riding a three-game win streak against Chiefs right now.

If this, if that, we just did it again yesterday. And the same person no less.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

That’s like saying Paterno didn’t molest those children, he just tried to cover it up

Noooo, by all accounts, Paterno knew it was happening while it was still happening, but took no action to stop it. That's not what happened in Bounty-Gate.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by rydogg58

I stayed awake through that latest post. I learned you're a ****ing moron.

Well that's something, isn't it?

Good job, son.

[brdempsey69]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

No, I "stopped to consider everything," like always Mr. Dunning. He was complicit in the coverup, that's what I said. You didn't read my post. Same with you, Mr. Krueger aka notorious.

I said he found out after the fact. TRUE.
I said he tried to cover it up. Also TRUE.

He did a bit more than that ... he lied to the commissioner a couple times, and kinda conspired with his defensive coaches so they all had the "same story." And the commissioner thought he didn't do enough to keep his staff in line, also after the fact.

You did NOT say he was complicit in Bounty Gate or even imply that, you lying bag of worms. I read your post just fine.

And you didn't answer the point of "Why was Payton trying to cover it up, if he wasn't involved, instead of taking disciplinary action against those involved?"

You have ZERO evidence about Payton "finding out after the fact". That is only hearsay.

BTW, 65 years and counting that the Donkeys have ZERO legit SB titles and the Donkeys 2024 Charity Case season doesn't change that.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by PHOG

If this, if that, we just did it again yesterday. And the same person no less.

Same guy blocked another FG? I must've missed that.

I saw that Chiefs pass rush, now THAT was NAILS.


The controversial penalties

The first 'roughing the passer' was a bad call, hit wasn't late even by today's standards.

Chiefs were offsides on the missed PAT

Next one, I think the timing of the contact, combined with the official's vantage point, caused him to think the loud CRACK! was Mahomes' helmet, when it was actually a Texan-on-Texan helmet CRACK!

The other one, I don't care if Mahomes "stopped short," defender shouldn't have touched him. It was kind of ticky tack, but it was a foul.

[PHOG]

Yeah, Chenal blocked both kicks.

[PHOG]

The first 'roughing the passer' was a bad call, hit wasn't late even by today's standards.

That was helmet to facemask, which by the very definition is RTP.

The second RTP was a bad vantage point of the ref, but Houston's reputation (see Trevor Lawrence, amongst other examples) got them there.

Offsides on the PAT: nope, perfect timing. Watch it again.

The "other" one, if you're talking about the sideline, there was no flag.


How about Smith being dragged to the turf by his helmet, and flagged for holding? Gotta be kidding me.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

No, I "stopped to consider everything" like always, Mr. Dunning. Sean was complicit in the coverup, that's what I said. You didn't read my post. Same with you, Mr. Krueger - error, notorious.

I said he found out after the fact. TRUE.
I said he tried to cover it up. Also TRUE.

He did a bit more than that ... he lied to the commissioner a couple times, and kinda conspired with his defensive coaches so they all had the "same story." And the commissioner thought he didn't do enough to keep his staff in line, also after the fact.

That all might be true, but after the commissioner's conduct and lies in the Ray Rice and Jon Gruden situations, I can't pretend to respect his adjudication of these kinds of issues.





Flush us "again?!" How far you going back for that Mr. Krueger? That blocked FG did you a bigger favor than you realize. If you hadn't blocked it, Broncos would be riding a three-game win streak against Chiefs right now. But you didn't stop to consider that, did you Brewster?

Chiefs won the game, fair and square. But nobody "flushed" nobody. Yes, you "actually beat us," by the width of a wrist. Congratulations.


And if that wrist swung a couple inches off, that would've meant we draw a more winnable Wild Card game, @ Houston. Win that one and it would have been us in Narrowhead yesterday, pushing for a 4-game win streak.

And while we're at it, your 16-game win streak against the Broncos was embarrassing, true. But we won 13 of the 17 before that.

What's that you say? "No BroncoBuff, no! You can't throw away all the other games and look just at our bad points!"

Yeah right.

The Broncos will be stuck in this bizarre "if this and that happened then the result would be different and we'd be champions" for another 10 years. Enjoy going one and done on the road and fantasizing about how you would win future games in the playoffs after losing your first game for the next decade Denver fans!

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by brdempsey69

You did NOT say he was complicit in Bounty Gate or even imply that, you lying bag of worms. I read your post just fine.

*SIGH*

QUOTE: "He just tried to cover it up "

He was complicit in the coverup, but not in the planning, administration or commission of the "crimes." Either you did NOT read it, or you didn't understand it, because I did more than just IMPLY it, I actually SAID it.

Even though you're wrong, I won't call you a "lying bag of worms" ��

Originally Posted by brdempsey

And you didn't answer the point of "Why was Payton trying to cover it up, if he wasn't involved, instead of taking disciplinary action against those involved?"

You don't have to be involved in a 'crime' to cover it up, Mr. Dunning - I MEAN - Dempsey. And not everyone (by a longshot) wants to play narc or boss-man to his co-workers.

I agree 100% that Sean should've immediately put an END to any part of it still going on, end everyone's involvement. But once that's done, LOTS of people, maybe most people, depending how close they are to the co-workers, or whomever is involved, would opt to try to help keep them out of trouble, out of jail.


EXAMPLE: Say you go home tonight, walk in, and your sister Sadie Mae Dempsey is frantic - there's blood everywhere ... She screams "Dempsey! I shot Wilbur (her boyfriend), he's dead! Me and Darlene dragged him out to the pickup, we gotta go get ridda the body!" and they take off in the truck. You fill a bucket with hot water and start cleaning up the blood. About an hour later, the police come to the door, "Son, you know whar Wilbur is? His mama is rill worried." You tell him no, you don't know.

QUIZ:

• Are you guilty of murder?
• Guilty of manslaughter?
• Conspiracy to commit murder?
• Accessory to murder?
• Accessory after the fact?
• Destruction of evidence?
• Concealment of evidence?

Originally Posted by brdempsey

You have ZERO evidence about Payton "finding out after the fact". That is only hearsay.

BTW, 65 years and counting that the Donkeys have ZERO legit SB titles and the Donkeys 2024 Charity Case season doesn't change that.

Hearsay is a rule of evidence that's only relevant when a jury is present. If you're using the word informally, well, about EVERYTHING any of us hear and repeat is hearsay.

No, I wasn't present when persons qualified under Fed.R.Evid. § 602 to have personal knowledge of the matter made statements, nor was I myself qualified under § 602 to have personal knowledge. So no, I would not be permitted to testify in front of a jury.

But numerous sources, several I've consulted today, report that Payton had no involvement in the planning or administration of the bounty program. The NFL conducted two investigations into bountygate, and the worst they say about Sean is that he was aware of the investigation (the second one at least), and, knowing there was an investigation qualifies as "constructive notice" something was going on. The commissioner ruled he should've taken strong action, warned the team, the coaching staff, that none of it would be tolerated.

BY THE WAY .... There was credible information that the Vikings had a very similar bounty program active at the same time. But Goodell chose not to investigate.