*****The Creed Humphrey Thread*****

[Dante84]

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Humphrey grew up watching the Sooners and wrestling like his father, Chad, who grappled at the University of Central Oklahoma. The first-team all-state pick at Shawnee High School redshirted in 2017 before taking over the starting center spot in 12 of 14 games played in 2018, when he earned Freshman All-American and honorable mention All-Big 12 honors while helping the front five win the Joe Moore Award as the nation's top offensive line. Humphrey sat out spring 2019 practices due to injury but was ready for the fall, garnering Rimington Trophy finalist, second-team Associated Press All-American and Big 12 Co-Offensive Lineman of the Year accolades as a 14-game starter. The 2020 team captain and 11-game starter was named a third-team AP All-American, Big 12 Offensive Lineman of the Year and first-team all-conference center as a junior. He accepted an invitation to the Senior Bowl. -- by Chad Reuter

Overview
Savvy, game-wise center with below-average length, good core strength and a full slate of intangibles desired at that position. Humphrey is praised inside the building for his outstanding leadership and having the recognition to make all the calls up front. He's more of a positional blocker than fork-lifter but has the core strength to neutralize and stalemate blockers at the point of attack. He's not a plus athlete but he's athletic enough as a move blocker, with the ability to work his feet into position to finish blocks after contact. He plays with a nasty streak when needed, which will appeal to offensive line coaches, but his overall profile might be more "steady" than "star." Humphrey is a solid, safe selection and should become a longtime starter.

Strengths

• Three-year starter and two-year team captain.
• Undeniable team leader and tough individual.
• Wrestling background is evident in core strength.
• Strong hands help maintain base block.
• Looks to work hands into position after losing battle early.
• Swings hips into position to seal the block.
• Fluid footwork for short-pull game.
• Finishes blocks with good intensity.
• Technique to trap and pancake leaning nose.
• Hands in punch were tighter and more accurate at Senior Bowl.
• Helps with cleanup when teammates' protection gets leaky.
• Capable in recovery mode.

Weaknesses

• Very short arms for his size, allowing defenders to get shots into his frame.
• Longer defenders separate and discard him.
• Will give some early ground against strong bull rush.
• Occasional drift against twisting fronts.
• Susceptible against push-pull specialists.
• Snap-to-step lateral quickness is average.
• Doesn't generate noticeable push as a drive blocker at point of attack.
• Gets a little grabby through contact on the move.

Sources Tell Us
"He was the best offensive lineman on the team when they won the Joe Moore Award (best offensive line in college football) and that line had everybody drafted, which speaks volumes for his ability." -- Southwest area scout for AFC team

Creed Humphrey was drafted with pick 63 of round 2 in the 2021 draft class. He scored a 10 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 1 out of 496 OC from 1987 to 2021. https://t.co/6Lf4JeRywo #RAS #Chiefs pic.twitter.com/i7KMgOBKLA

— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) May 1, 2021

The moment Creed Humphrey became a Chief �� @creed_humphrey pic.twitter.com/Et1FSKOBvV

— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) May 1, 2021

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

They did draft one, but he’s got a very high ceiling. Hate to say it but I think Creed is a goner next year, he’s going to get a ridiculous offer from someone and I don’t think the Chiefs will even be close. I don’t see how you drop $15 million a year on a center in this offense, which is the bare minimum Creed is going to get.

They let Rodney Hudson walk, they let Mitch Morse walk, and we won our first Super Bowl with a street free agent at center. Unless they’re planning on moving on from Thuney, but with such a young LT that seems unlikely. We’ll see, but just going by the trends they’ve already set it seems like he’s probably gone.

This mindset probably changed after the SB debacle vs the Bucs. Creed is the best C in football and his elite pass protection is incredibly valuable.

Nourzad is best fit as a G. I think the insane price hike of G’s getting $20+ million made the Trey Smith decision an easy one. Nourzad will most likely take over in 2025 for Trey.

C is a cheap position. You can give Creed a LTD and make it backloaded to where you’re paying roughly $12-13 million most of the contract.

So the question is: is Creed worth paying an inflated MVS contract in terms of cap hits?

Easy answer

[Delano]

Originally Posted by staylor26

"Current moves"?

Please don't tell me you're clueless enough to believe the Chiefs drafting a versatile IOL on day 3 means anything about Humphrey

Yes, Andy let Morse and Hudson walk. He didn't draft Hudson, and Morse had concussion issues though, so that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to let the best C in the NFL do the same. Do you honestly believe that Jason Kelce wouldn't have still been an Eagle for life if Andy never left Philly?

I don't think it's a guarantee by any means, but I think it's more likely than not that Humphrey will get a 2nd contract.

Evidence the Chiefs are giving themselves the option to move on is clear. 100% of the time he’s been given the option to sign a center long term in KC, Andy has declined.

I don’t want you to spoil another thread with your need to be right all the time.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Delano

Evidence the Chiefs are giving themselves the option to move on is clear. 100% of the time he’s been given the option to sign a center long term in KC, Andy has declined.

I don’t want you to spoil another thread with your need to be right all the time.

They literally replaced Allegretti. That's all they did.

But tapout acknowledged.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by staylor26

They literally replaced Allegretti. That's all they did.

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Possibly Thuney

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by staylor26

"Current moves"?

Please don't tell me you're clueless enough to believe the Chiefs drafting a versatile IOL on day 3 means anything about Humphrey

Yes, Andy let Morse and Hudson walk. He didn't draft Hudson, and Morse had concussion issues though, so that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to let the best C in the NFL do the same. Do you honestly believe that Jason Kelce wouldn't have still been an Eagle for life if Andy never left Philly?

I don't think it's a guarantee by any means, but I think it's more likely than not that Humphrey will get a 2nd contract.

It’s not 2nd contracts that are bad. It’s the third ones more often than not. KC is more likely to resign Creed than they are Trey.

[Delano]

Originally Posted by staylor26

They literally replaced Allegretti. That's all they did.

But tapout acknowledged.

Maybe in 2024 that’s the role. Nourzad will most likely start at a center or guard spot in 2025. Which is what I said all along - the Chiefs are positioning themselves to replace Humphrey if needed. Crazy contract demands, injuries, cap flexibility are all factors in play. Calling someone clueless for thinking this is peak stralor.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Delano

Maybe in 2024 that’s the role. Nourzad will most likely start at a center or guard spot in 2025. Which is what I said all along - the Chiefs are positioning themselves to replace Humphrey if needed. Crazy contract demands, injuries, cap flexibility are all factors in play. Calling someone clueless for thinking this is peak stralor.

You sure are moving goalposts just a tad. There was much more certainty than this in your first post.

And I know your reading comprehension is shit, but this is why I said you're clueless:

Please don't tell me you're clueless enough to believe the Chiefs drafting a versatile IOL on day 3 means anything about Humphreya

[Delano]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You sure are moving goalposts just a tad. There was much more certainty than this in your first post.

And I know your reading comprehension is shit, but this is why I said you're clueless:

Fire up thread-wrecking machine 26 folks.

All three or four posts of mine in this thread mention the Chiefs are positioning themselves, giving themselves options, etc. Hardly declarative comments. The only certainty we have here is that Reid hasn’t resigned a center during his time in KC even though the centers have been elite at that time. The chiefs also drafted two interior prospects - one of whom played very well at center last year. I believe these pieces of evidence show the Chiefs are preparing themselves to move on. Could Humphrey remain a Chief? Of course - assuming the contract fits and they don’t have a viable, cheaper replacement.

Does drafting two interior lineman have an impact on future decisions? Absolutely. Veach isnt throwing darts with a blindfold on here.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Delano

Fire up thread-wrecking machine 26 folks.

All three or four posts of mine in this thread mention the Chiefs are positioning themselves, giving themselves options, etc. Hardly declarative comments. The only certainty we have here is that Reid hasn’t resigned a center during his time in KC even though the centers have been elite at that time. The chiefs also drafted two interior prospects - one of whom played very well at center last year. I believe these pieces of evidence show the Chiefs are preparing themselves to move on. Could Humphrey remain a Chief? Of course - assuming the contract fits and they don’t have a viable, cheaper replacement.

Does drafting two interior lineman have an impact on future decisions? Absolutely. Veach isnt throwing darts with a blindfold on here.

They're giving themselves options, but Veach has shown he's not afraid to pay for top quality starting interior linemen. If Nourzad/Hanson are good starting quality linemen, then sure. Otherwise, don't be surprised if Humphrey gets a new deal.

[staylor26]

It's pretty simple.

The Chiefs aren't losing both Smoth and Humphrey.

The G market is out of ****ing control. The C market is very reasonable.

Creed is a better C than Smith is a G.

Do the math.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by RunKC

This mindset probably changed after the SB debacle vs the Bucs. Creed is the best C in football and his elite pass protection is incredibly valuable.

Nourzad is best fit as a G. I think the insane price hike of G’s getting $20+ million made the Trey Smith decision an easy one. Nourzad will most likely take over in 2025 for Trey.

C is a cheap position. You can give Creed a LTD and make it backloaded to where you’re paying roughly $12-13 million most of the contract.

So the question is: is Creed worth paying an inflated MVS contract in terms of cap hits?

Easy answer

I want Creed to protect Mahomes the rest of his career.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

They're giving themselves options, but Veach has shown he's not afraid to pay for top quality starting interior linemen. If Nourzad/Hanson are good starting quality linemen, then sure. Otherwise, don't be surprised if Humphrey gets a new deal.

If they both end up as starting quality linemen then one will replace Thuney and the other will most likely be Smith. I don’t think Smith will get a market setting deal, but I would be curious if he gets more than Creed.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by RunKC

This mindset probably changed after the SB debacle vs the Bucs. Creed is the best C in football and his elite pass protection is incredibly valuable.

Nourzad is best fit as a G. I think the insane price hike of G’s getting $20+ million made the Trey Smith decision an easy one. Nourzad will most likely take over in 2025 for Trey.

C is a cheap position. You can give Creed a LTD and make it backloaded to where you’re paying roughly $12-13 million most of the contract.

So the question is: is Creed worth paying an inflated MVS contract in terms of cap hits?

Easy answer

Very logical take, hopefully they are looking at it like this as well.

[Easy 6]

Does anyone else think of Creed and Tre when this comes on?

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I want Creed to protect Mahomes the rest of his career.

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