Tourist(s) missing in submarine while trying to reach the Titannic

[Ming the Merciless]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-s-coa...-sub-1.6446841

A search and rescue operation is currently underway to locate a submarine that went missing during an expedition to the Titanic.
The U.S. Coast Guard was looking for the submarine Monday morning after it disappeared during the expedition from St. John's, N.L. The infamous 1912 wreck is located more than 600 kilometres southeast of the province in the North Atlantic Ocean.
The trip to the Titanic was being run by OceanGate Expeditions, a U.S.-based company. It uses a five-person submersible named Titan to reach the wreckage 3,800 metres below the surface. OceanGate's website advertises a seven-night voyage to the Titanic for US$250,000 per person, or approximately CA$330,000.
"We are exploring and mobilizing all options to bring the crew back safely," an OceanGate spokesperson said in an email to CTV News. "Our entire focus is on the crewmembers in the submersible and their families."


Those tours are a series of five eight-day missions to the Titanic with the money raised by tourists going towards Titanic research. Posts on social media show the ship launched from the St. John's area last week.

Did they really have 5 people in this?? Or do they have a larger version??

[ChiefaRoo]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

that's fascinating

some weird creature is going to get a nice big pile of baloney for dinner

Imagine getting smooshed down to the size of a softball. I wonder if the pressure turns you into a sphere? Anyone know?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decompression_sickness

Yes, I know.

In that scene, he gets into an escape pod that has the air pressure as the vessel at the bottom of the ocean, which is the same as the water pressure at that depth.

So, the pressure in the escape pod is not changing as he ascends but he explodes anyway, despite there being no Delta P inside the escape pod.

Now, if he reached the surface and opened the hatch without decompressing, yes. A big mess.

Or perhaps I'm missing something.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

Imagine getting smooshed down to the size of a softball. I wonder if the pressure turns you into a sphere? Anyone know?

Bet it's more like a football

[FlaChief58]

I suddenly feel like a tomato bisc

[Rams Fan]

I wonder what countries can do in the future to prevent this?

Since the voyage occurred in international waters, the only thing I could think of would be countries banning companies that have commercial vessels that aren't tested and certified from being on their soil/water?

[frozenchief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

"Quoted from deep inside James Cameron's own ass"

God that guy is full of himself. And just a staggeringly pretentious d-bag.

It is true that he is absolutely full of himself. And he's a d-bag. I wonder about pretentious, though, because he has actually been actively involved with submersibles for decades now. He's even descended into the Mariana trench. I figure that when it comes to this type of event, he has a lot more practical experience and knowledge than large swathes of the population so I would listen to what he has to say. If he's talking about other matters, not so much.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

God that guy is full of himself. And just a staggeringly pretentious d-bag.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

Imagine getting smooshed down to the size of a softball. I wonder if the pressure turns you into a sphere? Anyone know?

someday they'll find them

[RedRaider56]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

"Quoted from deep inside James Cameron's own ass"

God that guy is full of himself. And just a staggeringly pretentious d-bag.

I didn't get that same feeling watching the interview. Cameron has skins on the wall, so to speak, and knows what goes into the preparation for deep ocean dive.
I thought he was just being very forthright and truthful with is feeling and knowledge.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I don't disagree regarding Cameron, however, given his experience with deep-sea exploration, I still find it worth listening to his commentary.

This is just all very sad and there are so many things that could've been handled differently and 5 people died as a result of someone's ambition causing them to compromise safety.

At the same time, it doesn't sound like the company made any secret of the risks involved. The waiver itself explicitly mentions death as a possibility multiple times. Along the lines of what DJLN has said, at some point, you have to let people accept the risks even if they're far above zero.

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I wonder what countries can do in the future to prevent this?

Since the voyage occurred in international waters, the only thing I could think of would be countries banning companies that have commercial vessels that aren't tested and certified from being on their soil/water?

I don't see a compelling reason why any change is necessary, personally.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Frazod

I just hope nobody is lost retrieving whatever is left of them. That would be a real tragedy. As it stands right now, this whole mess is just the billionaire edition of play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

wouldn't you imagine that they were turned into crab patties and pretty much consumed by whatever creatures exist down there. I mean, I can't even imagine there was any structure left to their carcasses after implosion

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by DaFace

At the same time, it doesn't sound like the company made any secret of the risks involved. The waiver itself explicitly mentions death as a possibility multiple times. Along the lines of what DJLN has said, at some point, you have to let people accept the risks even if they're far above zero.

I agree that the people that went on these voyages knew there was a significant risk, but I also don't believe OceanGate, from what I've read, was very honest about their relationships with NASA, the University of Washington, and Boeing.

Boeing flat-out said they never worked with OceanGate and UW said the only relationship was they let OceanGate use their facilities for testing (without any UW faculty present or having any input), and NASA saying they only recommended some inputs for the design and nothing else.

I could see how someone could say **** it if they believed OceanGate had meaningful relationships with reputable institutions and experts, but in this instance it seems that the summary of their relationships were either extrapolated or outright inaccurate.

Originally Posted by DaFace

I don't see a compelling reason why any change is necessary, personally.

This whole search costs $$$. And while it is purposeful to help people out in need, you can't just consistently spend time and $$$ to try to rescue people in dire conditions that are in a vessel that cut corners on safety regulations.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

wouldn't you imagine that they were turned into crab patties and pretty much consumed by whatever creatures exist down there. I mean, I can't even imagine there was any structure left to their carcasses after implosion

[ReynardMuldrake]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes, I know.

In that scene, he gets into an escape pod that has the air pressure as the vessel at the bottom of the ocean, which is the same as the water pressure at that depth.

So, the pressure in the escape pod is not changing as he ascends but he explodes anyway, despite there being no Delta P inside the escape pod.

Now, if he reached the surface and opened the hatch without decompressing, yes. A big mess.

Or perhaps I'm missing something.

Uh, good point. Creative license, I guess?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake

Uh, good point. Creative license, I guess?

Yes, same with the Abyss implosion scene. I get that it's a movie, but it's always bugged me.

I remember watching that scene as a kid with one of my brothers. One who doesn't understand a thing about science/physics. I got punched in the head, again.