House of the Dragon

[Hammock Parties]

OH YEAH!

All the dragons roar as one.
The #HOTD trailer has arrived. pic.twitter.com/ug7ESvpg8U

— House of the Dragon (@HouseofDragon) July 20, 2022

[ThaVirus]

How about Gwayne? I was sure I’d hate him. He came off so ****-y.

He’s actually awesome and chill af lol

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

they just have to cram lesbian shit in our face, huh?

More like an interrupted sexual assault considering the power dynamics of dragon riding queen to a bordello madam and (assuming Mysaria wasn't lying) manipulating a survivor of sexual abuse with physical affections.

[Urc Burry]

Book spoiler

Spoiler!

I originally thought episode 8 would end with the blacks taking KL. I know there isn’t really a fight in taking it because of Aemond’s **** up. But it feels like we’re running out of time. Especially if we’re milking this thing for 4 seasons. Thoughts?

[duncan_idaho]

Many current thoughts. Spoiler tagging for safety.

Spoiler!

- Larys. The source material views Larys as a bit of a mystery. Why was he the way he was? There's still so much twisty, tricky shit yet for him to do. Seeing him in action is pretty legit. Was he being truthful with Aegon and helping him because he feels bad? That's one take, but the more likely one is that he tapped into some of his personal pain - like a true sociopath - to manipulate him and make him his own creature because he is realizing he can't do that with Aemond.

- Rhaenyra and Mysaria. Is Mysaria the Black's reflection of Larys Strong? It's possible. Source material comments on the rapid rise of Mysaria in Rhaenyra's court a bit and how unexpected it was. Seeing some of why (she's capable AND DTF? That's the jackpot, right?).

- Rhaena and the wild dragon. They're twisting some of the story there (condensing a character or 2, it seems). I sure hope they don't have her take on the relationship the character she looks to be replacing was taking on, because that would be too much, even for GoT. (In the Martin book, there is a character called Nettles who tames a wild dragon called Sheepstealer and who becomes extremely close - intimated a lover - with Daemon. There's some allusion to it being more like a father-daughter relationship. Maybe they just make it that).

- The show is spending a good amount of time on character development - Daemon and Rhaenyra. I know it's slow, but I find it interesting and would prefer showing more of it to just TELLING us about why they did what they did later.

- Daeron Targaryen. I found the scene between Alicent and her brother, and the conversation about the son she sent way, pretty sad knowing what is coming.

If you could tell the story of the Targaryens from this point forward, it might be a tale of tragedy - that the "best" Targaryen was not ascending to the throne.

Daeron apparently is everything you would want a benevolent philosopher king to be. So was Rhaegar, the more we learn about him.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Many current thoughts. Spoiler tagging for safety.

Spoiler!

- Larys. The source material views Larys as a bit of a mystery. Why was he the way he was? There's still so much twisty, tricky shit yet for him to do. Seeing him in action is pretty legit. Was he being truthful with Aegon and helping him because he feels bad? That's one take, but the more likely one is that he tapped into some of his personal pain - like a true sociopath - to manipulate him and make him his own creature because he is realizing he can't do that with Aemond.

- Rhaenyra and Mysaria. Is Mysaria the Black's reflection of Larys Strong? It's possible. Source material comments on the rapid rise of Mysaria in Rhaenyra's court a bit and how unexpected it was. Seeing some of why (she's capable AND DTF? That's the jackpot, right?).

- Rhaena and the wild dragon. They're twisting some of the story there (condensing a character or 2, it seems). I sure hope they don't have her take on the relationship the character she looks to be replacing was taking on, because that would be too much, even for GoT. (In the Martin book, there is a character called Nettles who tames a wild dragon called Sheepstealer and who becomes extremely close - intimated a lover - with Daemon. There's some allusion to it being more like a father-daughter relationship. Maybe they just make it that).

- The show is spending a good amount of time on character development - Daemon and Rhaenyra. I know it's slow, but I find it interesting and would prefer showing more of it to just TELLING us about why they did what they did later.

- Daeron Targaryen. I found the scene between Alicent and her brother, and the conversation about the son she sent way, pretty sad knowing what is coming.

If you could tell the story of the Targaryens from this point forward, it might be a tale of tragedy - that the "best" Targaryen was not ascending to the throne.

Daeron apparently is everything you would want a benevolent philosopher king to be. So was Rhaegar, the more we learn about him.

Spoiler!

Larys and Mysaria are peas in a pod. They both are just trying to obtain the best possible outcome for themselves alone but they're going about it in different ways. To be fair if Larys thought letting Aegon **** him would get him what he wants he'd probably do it.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

Spoiler!

Larys and Mysaria are peas in a pod. They both are just trying to obtain the best possible outcome for themselves alone but they're going about it in different ways. To be fair if Larys thought letting Aegon **** him would get him what he wants he'd probably do it.

Spoiler!

tbf there was a moment I feared for Aegon’s exposed feet in the last ep

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Honestly the more I think about it the more this season is starting to annoy me. It's like every episode is the same exact thing. We only get 8 episodes and over half of those are Daemon hallucinating at Harrenhall and Rhaenyra whining about not being respected or some shit. Honestly this season has some good moments, but it's a lot of boring filler shit and we shouldn't get much filler if we only get 8 episodes.

Agreed. This is not the best GoT has to offer.

[KCUnited]

“It’s my fault that you’ve forgotten to fear me”

Hardest line in the series

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

“It’s my fault that you’ve forgotten to fear me”

Hardest line in the series

Yet, other than a slap, she does nothing to make anyone fear her.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Many current thoughts. Spoiler tagging for safety.

Spoiler!

- Larys. The source material views Larys as a bit of a mystery. Why was he the way he was? There's still so much twisty, tricky shit yet for him to do. Seeing him in action is pretty legit. Was he being truthful with Aegon and helping him because he feels bad? That's one take, but the more likely one is that he tapped into some of his personal pain - like a true sociopath - to manipulate him and make him his own creature because he is realizing he can't do that with Aemond.

- Rhaenyra and Mysaria. Is Mysaria the Black's reflection of Larys Strong? It's possible. Source material comments on the rapid rise of Mysaria in Rhaenyra's court a bit and how unexpected it was. Seeing some of why (she's capable AND DTF? That's the jackpot, right?).

- Rhaena and the wild dragon. They're twisting some of the story there (condensing a character or 2, it seems). I sure hope they don't have her take on the relationship the character she looks to be replacing was taking on, because that would be too much, even for GoT. (In the Martin book, there is a character called Nettles who tames a wild dragon called Sheepstealer and who becomes extremely close - intimated a lover - with Daemon. There's some allusion to it being more like a father-daughter relationship. Maybe they just make it that).

- The show is spending a good amount of time on character development - Daemon and Rhaenyra. I know it's slow, but I find it interesting and would prefer showing more of it to just TELLING us about why they did what they did later.

- Daeron Targaryen. I found the scene between Alicent and her brother, and the conversation about the son she sent way, pretty sad knowing what is coming.

If you could tell the story of the Targaryens from this point forward, it might be a tale of tragedy - that the "best" Targaryen was not ascending to the throne.

Daeron apparently is everything you would want a benevolent philosopher king to be. So was Rhaegar, the more we learn about him.

Spoiler!

I'm all for elaborate character building, but that's not what we are getting. We just keep getting the same thing episode after episode with pretty much everyone. It's a really tough to do that slow burn thing as well when you're only gonna crank out 8 episodes ever 1.5 to 2 years. They really need to pick up the pace, because not much has happened and we only have like 2 episodes left.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Yet, other than a slap, she does nothing to make anyone fear her.

Yeah bout time to feed a council member to a dragon or something. They act like she isn't event there and talk around her.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Spoiler!

I'm all for elaborate character building, but that's not what we are getting. We just keep getting the same thing episode after episode with pretty much everyone. It's a really tough to do that slow burn thing as well when you're only gonna crank out 8 episodes ever 1.5 to 2 years. They really need to pick up the pace, because not much has happened and we only have like 2 episodes left.

You sound like the typical ADHD viewer. Plenty has happened, but if you are only watching for battles and dragon fights, you're going to continue to feel that way about this season until maybe the season finale.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You sound like the typical ADHD viewer. Plenty has happened, but if you are only watching for battles and dragon fights, you're going to continue to feel that way about this season until maybe the season finale.

If you don't think this season has taken a pretty big hit in quality, then idk what to tell you. I'm clearly not the only one thinking it. Just look at IMDB ratings for the episodes. Season 1 only had 2 episodes below an 8.4 and that was an 8.3 and 8.0. Here are season 2 ratings.

1. 8.3
2. 8.3
3. 7.7
4. 9.6
5. 7.5
6. 6.2

This season hasn't been even close to season 1.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

they just have to cram lesbian shit in our face, huh?

Oh the sheer horrors of girls kissing girls...../smh.

Clay...be less gay please.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

If you don't think this season has taken a pretty big hit in quality, then idk what to tell you. I'm clearly not the only one thinking it. Just look at IMDB ratings for the episodes. Season 1 only had 2 episodes below an 8.4 and that was an 8.3 and 8.0. Here are season 2 ratings.

1. 8.3
2. 8.3
3. 7.7
4. 9.6
5. 7.5
6. 6.2

This season hasn't been even close to season 1.

We're going by IMDB ratings for individual espidoes?

S1 had an 83% audience score on RT and S2 has an 87%.

The overwhelming consensus on this season is positive.

S1 was a completely different pace with all the time jumps and it was always going to be that way.