New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

History will be the judge of who is "backing out".

Look jackass, it is this simple...Mizzou is willing to play KU. Mizzou not even asking for a home and home...hell, according you, KC is KU's second home, so technically Mizzou is offering to play KU on the road every year. But KU is being a whiny little bitch and wants to take its ball and go home. History will show that KU upped and ran. No amount of spin you can do changes that fact.

[Saul Good]

History isn't going to give a shit. Mizzou will be playing massive games in the SEC, and KU will losing to West Virginia and Louisville, and Tulane or whoever the **** else joins the conference.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by kepp

That's true...ku usually "backs in."

[evenfall]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Look jackass, it is this simple...Mizzou is willing to play KU. Mizzou not even asking for a home and home...hell, according you, KC is KU's second home, so technically Mizzou is offering to play KU on the road every year. But KU is being a whiny little bitch and wants to take its ball and go home. History will show that KU upped and ran. No amount of spin you can do changes that fact.

they will still play. their decrepit football program desperately needs the money. Self's butthurt is what it is, but the university brass are not going to turn down millions just because his ego got a bit ruffled. they will convince him to see it their way. it will just become in basketball once a year, like the illinois series was

[Mr. Plow]

[Saul Good]

Now that the Mizzou situation appears to be settled, where does the KU to the PAC situation stand?

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Now that the Mizzou situation appears to be settled, where does the KU to the PAC situation stand?

It's coming up after the MU to the Big 10 situation is resolved. They want you....they really really do.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

It's coming up after the MU to the Big 10 situation is resolved. They want you....they really really do.

No thanks. Junior memberships are for the Corndogs.

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by evenfall

they will still play. their decrepit football program desperately needs the money. Self's butthurt is what it is, but the university brass are not going to turn down millions just because his ego got a bit ruffled. they will convince him to see it their way. it will just become in basketball once a year, like the illinois series was

If Mizzou really wanted to stick to them, require them to do both football and basketball.....then Self has no outs and has to play.

I see the football game staying, KU needs the cash, but I do think Self will try his hardest to not play Mizzou in bball.

[Mosbonian]

Anyone seen Wickedson today?

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

No thanks. Junior memberships are for the Corndogs.

Your right. They took a junior membership, MU took to throwing itself at the Big 10 not once, not twice, but at least 3 times and getting rejected each time.

Seriously, congrats on the SEC and the full membership. I'm sure it's going to work out great for MU.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

If Mizzou really wanted to stick to them, require them to do both football and basketball.....then Self has no outs and has to play.

I see the football game staying, KU needs the cash, but I do think Self will try his hardest to not play Mizzou in bball.

It's possible. I don't see it happening, but it's possible.

[evenfall]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Yeah but the fat girl with pimples didn't get asked to dance by the homecoming king.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Your right. They took a junior membership, MU took to throwing itself at the Big 10 not once, not twice, but at least 3 times and getting rejected each time.

Seriously, congrats on the SEC and the full membership. I'm sure it's going to work out great for MU.

Supposedly the B1G offered Mizzou an even shittier version of a junior membership than Nebraska got. That was when the Texas and Oklahoma teams were going to the PAC. It was a shitty offer, but it would have been better than nothing if the conference fell apart and the SEC offer didn't materialize.

Fortunately, Mizzou wound up in the best conference in the country. We'll see where Kansas winds up once Texas and ESPN pull the plug on LHN. That's really the biggest wildcard on the horizon.

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

It's possible. I don't see it happening, but it's possible.

Lots of schools have football only or bball only contracts for non-con.

I think they will work out a deal and do both, and Self can take the high road and say he did it "for the fans of KU"... no one loses face, and the fans still get to see the game, both schools profit, everyone wins.