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[brdempsey69]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Strong chance that the NFL PR machine helped concoct this flawed excuse.

The timeline doesnt hold up to scrutiny and would have been exposed had the internet been what it is today.

What were the NFL's options? They couldn't go back a replay two SBs...What about teams like the Steelers...that got beat in th AFCCG? How much lost revenue did that cost the city? What if fans start to lose interest?

It was a potential PR nightmare that had far reaching implications....so they attempted to squash it.

Anyone with common sense knows what the rub is...those SBs should have a asterisk.

Exactly right. Bowlen and company thought they'd could pull a fast one & get away with it and never come under any scrutiny of any kind until Al Davis surprised them & left them in desperate straits.

That timeline info that I posted was found by none other than myself, circa 2015, as I never bought into that "deferring payments to fund a new stadium" BS, and did a little bit of research and when I found it, I thought "you're BUSTED, Bowlen and all you Donktards"

As for the Donks so-called "SB wins", it's much more than an a asterisk -- anyone can rightfully discredit, dishonor, and discount them completely, as they simply were not earned in legit fashion on a level playing field.....cut and dried.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by brdempsey69

As for the Donks so-called "SB wins", it's much more than an a asterisk -- anyone can rightfully discredit, dishonor, and discount them completely, as they simply were not earned in legit fashion on a level playing field.....cut and dried.

Especially when their two most impactful players were the ones implicated...it's not far-fetched to say that without one of those two, they never reach either SB.

Bowlen knew it....and also knew Horseface only had a couple years left. They rolled the dice to see if they could invent a QB legacy...and it worked.

If he were asked if he would do it again...with a lie detector....he would say ab$olutely yes.

He made back 50-100 times those fines...at least.

The other record the deserves an asterisk is Mainnings 55 TDs while being jacked out on HGH..

That's another scandal theat the NFL PR team buried...along with PM sending goons to the whistleblower's house to intimidate him.

You NEVER hear that mentioned on sport talk shows...they memory-holed it.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Funny thing about the "tougher road" argument is that the opposite is probably true. Adding a bunch more teams only spread the talent thinner and made individual teams weaker.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

You guys are classic.....

"The next time I'm wrong in this tread will be the first time!"
"You haven't proven me wrong about anything" ... "Disproven beyond the shadow of a doubt!"

Classic ...

________________

Somebody mentioned the 72 Dolphins somewhere ...

TRIVIA: Other than their 17-0 record, that team achieved and set a VERY impressive statistical record that can only be tied, never broken. What is it??

Coming from you that’s pretty funny. Mr. “Hey I know you guys are in a dynasty but remember the bad times back in the 80’s, 90’s and 00’s?”

I know you guys have 3 SB’s, but remember when Denver went over 35 years without ever knowing what it was like to win a championship?

[brdempsey69]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Especially when their two most impactful players were the ones implicated...it's not far-fetched to say that without one of those two, they never reach either SB.

Bowlen knew it....and also knew Horseface only had a couple years left. They rolled the dice to see if they could invent a QB legacy...and it worked.

If he were asked if he would do it again...with a lie detector....he would say ab$olutely yes.

He made back 50-100 times those fines...at least.

The other record the deserves an asterisk is Mannings 55 TDs while being jacked out on HGH..

That's another scandal threat the NFL PR team buried...along with PM sending goons to the whistleblower's house to intimidate him.

It's also not far-fetched to say that if Pete Rozelle would have been able to stay on as commissioner for another 10-15 years, and beyond the end of Elway's career, that Elway would've had to go the same route as Kelly and Marino and retire without any SB ring.

Manning's 55 TD's were oftentimes the result of illegal pick plays by Donks receivers and pushoffs, which Seattle's Legion of Boom figured out how to negate all that in SB 48.

As for Bowlen and Elway, they went the route they did, because of the loss to the Jags in the 1996 playoff game, and they knew Elway couldn't earn any SB in legit fashion on a level playing field, as he'd had 14 years worth of chances and 3 SB appearances (and stunk up the field worse than any QB in SB history that played in multiple SB games) & they needed to have the playing field tilted heavily in their favor by any means to get to any SB.

[BlackOp]

So Bo Nix won offensive rookie of the month...their fans seem to be proud that he edged out Daniels.

The 3 teams Nix beat went 0-12 in October. The one team that beat them (Chargers) had the Donks down 23-0 in the 4th...Nix had 27 yards passing and a 9.8 rating through three quarters.

What a joke of a schedule...all three teams were on their back-up QB. One was missing both starting WRs...the other two had benched their starting WR so they could trade him.

I've been watching the NFL for decades and have never seen a schedule play out like that...5 wins against teams that were 1-19 during the streak has to be a record of some sorts.

[ptlyon]

Participation trophies

[New World Order]

Be nice to buff.

Isn’t he the one who got the Mane shut down?

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Again, the "Chiefs Suck" thread at Huddle (which started on the Mane in like 2012) has by far the most replies of any thread on the board. It also has about 150x more views than the typical thread there. You're obsessed w/ KC.

I see your point, but I disagree, at least for myself. I am definitely NOT obsessed. I wasn't even po'd about our long losing streak to you - I didn't like it, but if we're not going to the playoffs, I want a good draft pick. If we popped up and upset you a couple times, we wouldn't have Patrick Surtain.

We have a couple of chiefs trolls over there now (Zerovoltz, RockyMountainOyster), and there have been some heated talk, but honestly, nothing like what I've experienced in here the past few days. And I'm not even a flamethrower.

I saw that thread as comedy until Mahomes showed up, that's when everything changed. I'm not a Mahomes hater or any of that - I definitely hope we kick your ass in a couple weeks, but I'm not in denial about young Patrick. In fact when my cousin visited a couple months ago, we sat down with cigars on the patio and talked about our Top 10 lists, like all red-blooded American men do. I had to acknowledge that young Patrick had leap-frogged #18 into 3rd on my all-time QB list. If you think that was easy you're crazy.

Originally Posted by RaidersCellar

At best, you can say that both fanbases are obsessed. Difference is, only one is fueled by jealousy.

Jealousy? The last five years maybe, not before that. C'mon. That 48 years I been pointing out, that's no joke.

Originally Posted by RaidersCellar

All righty then...let's compare accomplishments from this millennium. That's a quarter of a century. Pretty good sample size, wouldn't you say? Who comes out on top?

�� ... I am not in denial, my friend. I know what's up. We've had some pretty good success this millennium, but we don't compare at ALL to the crayon-red-clad native Americans ��

Originally Posted by RaidersCellar

you said that you personally don't count "minor league" stats, aka AFL accomplishments pre-1970. If you count them, why would you not include them in your comparisons?

Btw, isn't it impressive that a "minor league" team blew out a major league team in January 1970?

The NFL recognizes all AFL games and stats. You're literally the only person I've ever seen make this argument. And you want to talk about obsession?

Yes they do count, that was part of the merger agreement. But there are very very few that ever pop up.

Again, believe it or not, I am not obsessed. I was trying to make a point ... I wish I'd never said "minor league". My point was for the first 7 years the only care the AFL had was surviving to press the issue of merger. As the franchise most cash-poor in the bank and piss poor on the field, I can accurately point to our top priority of survival as making our on-field performance unfair to be judged at this late a date. Especially with a silly record like 1-19 vs a wealthy team.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Be nice to buff.

Isn’t he the one who got the Mane shut down?

😅

Yeah, I suppose that's me ... I'm sure that's what Taco John will tell you.

I understand he posts here now, is he making friends and influencing people?

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Be nice to buff.

Isn’t he the one who got the Mane shut down?

Screw that...if he is that dude, he can go **** himself. Woke little twat trying strong arm freedom of speech...

[New World Order]

Every AFC team should be kissing our feet after what Lamar Hunt did for the AFL.

You ungrateful Denver bitches

[TEX]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I see your point, but I disagree, at least for myself. I am definitely NOT obsessed. I wasn't even po'd about our long losing streak to you - I didn't like it, but if we're not going to the playoffs, I want a good draft pick. If we popped up and upset you a couple times, we wouldn't have Patrick Surtain.

We have a couple of chiefs trolls over there now (Zerovoltz, RockyMountainOyster), and there have been some heated talk, but honestly, nothing like what I've experienced in here the past few days. And I'm not even a flamethrower.

I saw that thread as comedy until Mahomes showed up, that's when everything changed. I'm not a Mahomes hater or any of that - I definitely hope we kick your ass in a couple weeks, but I'm not in denial about young Patrick. In fact when my cousin visited a couple months ago, we sat down with cigars on the patio and talked about our Top 10 lists, like all red-blooded American men do. I had to acknowledge that young Patrick had leap-frogged #18 into 3rd on my all-time QB list. If you think that was easy you're crazy.




Jealousy? The last five years maybe, not before that. C'mon. That 48 years I been pointing out, that's no joke.




�� ... I am not in denial, my friend. I know what's up. We've had some pretty good success this millennium, but we don't compare at ALL to the crayon-red-clad native Americans ��





Yes they do count, that was part of the merger agreement. But there are very very few that ever pop up.

Again, believe it or not, I am not obsessed. I was trying to make a point ... I wish I'd never said "minor league". My point was for the first 7 years the only care the AFL had was surviving to press the issue of merger. As the franchise most cash-poor in the bank and piss poor on the field, I can accurately point to our top priority of survival as making our on-field performance unfair to be judged at this late a date. Especially with a silly record like 1-19 vs a wealthy team.

Eat s#it pie, QUEER!

Denver cheated. And still has less titles than KC.


*Denver Broncos: Violated the salary cap during their Super Bowl seasons.

[brdempsey69]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

My point was for the first 7 years the only care the AFL had was surviving to press the issue of merger. As the franchise most cash-poor in the bank and piss poor on the field, I can accurately point to our top priority of survival as making our on-field performance unfair to be judged at this late a date. Especially with a silly record like 1-19 vs a wealthy team.

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Screw that...if he is that dude, he can go **** himself. Woke little twat trying strong arm freedom of speech...

Hey BlackOp -- take a look above at his narrative about his Donks being "the franchise most cash-poor in the bank ". This is false from 1965 -- 1969, as they had ample revenue coming in from the 36 million dollar TV contract that Jets owner Sonny Werblin had set up with NBC to televise AFL games.

He also doesn't mention the common draft being instituted in 1967 and the Donks getting out-drafted by other teams from 1967 -- 1969 (Miami did a nice job during this same time & had a solid core of quality players in place when Don Shula took over in 1970).

He also doesn't point out that the Donks top draft pick in 1968 was none other than HOF DT Curley Culp, who was somehow let go to KC that very same year with the Donks getting essentially nothing in return.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by brdempsey69

And not just that. Those 1997,1998, and 2015 Donks were beneficiaries of some of the most horrifically biased officiating in the Donks favor that anyone has ever seen.

Wow, look who's talking here. Right now there are serious and respected observers questioning what's up with strange calls going to the Chiefs. You must know that. If anything is going on, I do not believe the team has anything to do with it. But PI calls and misses are the most questionable because they can't be reviewed.

And Mahomes with those histrionics last year on the sidelines ... He actually said "You're supposed to warn us!"

Oh man, that is bad, REALLY bad. Game officials have no duty to warn about anything. I suppose they they might casually say "you guys watch your step" or whatever, but there's nothing even close to a requirement.

I wish you hadn't brought that up cuz now I'm going to take tons more incoming. But that's just the way things are right now.... I will admit that the holding call in the Philly Super Bowl - technically was holding, but that was your classic example of a moment where you let the players decide it on the field.