Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 520

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

HolyHandgernade · 10-30-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Not gonna happen unless they could get a 12th school to follow soon. You cant have a Conf. Championship game with 11. A big reason why B1G wanted to get to 12 schools. Lots of TV revenue in those Championship games.

Well, some of the schools don't want a championship game, and I think a championship game would fall under the Tier 1 rights, not Tier 2. So, since those negotiations are a few years away, they could very easily go to some 11 game rotation, possibly with ND as an associate member, and then evaluate the situation as the 1st Tier nears.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-30-2011, 11:01 PM

On second thought, I suppose you could still have a Champ. game, but the divisions would be uneven. Not sure how that would work.

**Saul Good** · 10-31-2011, 06:08 AM

The smart play would be Louisville and Cincy. That would break the Big East, and exit fees wouldn't be an issue.

eazyb81 · 10-31-2011, 06:31 AM

I thought it was decided that Texas wanted to add West Virginia only to stay at ten teams. If that's the case, that is what will happen. OU needs to realize their opinion is irrelevant.

Frankly, I think the Big 12 should stay at ten. Adding Louisville and Cincinnati will dilute the football brand quite a bit. Replacing Mizzou and A&M with WVU and TCU will keep the Big 12 as one of the top three football conferences, which is what UT is probably focused on.

Molitoth · 10-31-2011, 08:12 AM

I love this chaos, I just hope it somehow effects the BCS into a forced playoff system.

Mr. Plow · 10-31-2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

I love this chaos, I just hope it somehow effects the BCS into a forced playoff system.

All thanks to MU.

Pants · 10-31-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

All thanks to MU.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 10-31-2011, 08:40 AM

Deato has cancelled his 9 day trip to India. Settle in for a while boys.

beer bacon · 10-31-2011, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

The smart play would be Louisville and Cincy. That would break the Big East, and exit fees wouldn't be an issue.

Except the Big East has secretly cloned Ken Starr and they are ready to sue.

**HemiEd** · 10-31-2011, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

All thanks to MU.

We should all make a policy of genuflecting to the Mizzou flag each morning, and once again prior to going to bed at night.

Pants · 10-31-2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

We should all make a policy of genuflecting to the Mizzou flag each morning, and once again prior to going to bed at night.

HolyHandgernade · 10-31-2011, 09:43 AM

I thought it was interesting after the Big XII reconfirmed WVU as the choice you heard next to nothing from the Louisville camp. There was a big stink when it was first announced, everything died down quickly, then they announced WVU, and there was very little comment afterwards from Louisville.

I think the Big XII told them to be patient, they were going to come in, they just needed to check on some contingencies first and then give them their own day. I think they'll stand pat at 11 and ND will be a non football participant while playing 4-6 games a year against Big XII opponents. That prospect was probably enough for FOX to adjust the 2nd Tier. Go a couple years like this, and then when 1st Tier negotiations start up they can look to go to a permanent 12, whether that means ND as a continued non-football participant or a full member.

That way, the Big XII can negotiate 1st Tier with a conference championship as part of the package while enjoying the best possible benefit from the 2nd Tier.

Reerun_KC · 10-31-2011, 09:49 AM

This is still a topic of discussion?

Pants · 10-31-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

This is still a topic of discussion?

Uhh... why wouldn't it be?

**HemiEd** · 10-31-2011, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Uhh... why wouldn't it be?

Ballsack?

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $796966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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HolyHandgernade Integralist Join Date: May 2001 Location: Murrieta, CA Casino cash: $10006370	I thought it was interesting after the Big XII reconfirmed WVU as the choice you heard next to nothing from the Louisville camp. There was a big stink when it was first announced, everything died down quickly, then they announced WVU, and there was very little comment afterwards from Louisville. I think the Big XII told them to be patient, they were going to come in, they just needed to check on some contingencies first and then give them their own day. I think they'll stand pat at 11 and ND will be a non football participant while playing 4-6 games a year against Big XII opponents. That prospect was probably enough for FOX to adjust the 2nd Tier. Go a couple years like this, and then when 1st Tier negotiations start up they can look to go to a permanent 12, whether that means ND as a continued non-football participant or a full member. That way, the Big XII can negotiate 1st Tier with a conference championship as part of the package while enjoying the best possible benefit from the 2nd Tier. __________________ You'll see it's all a show, keep 'em laughing as you go, just remember, the last laugh is on you, and always look on the bright side of life!
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