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Old 03-18-2022, 01:47 PM  
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Old 09-09-2024, 04:35 PM   #766
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The current Baker at his current salary is a bargain.
And maybe Baker was more injured than I remembered.
But he had a great D. He had Chubb and Karem. I guess I don’t really remember thinking his WR were particularly good or bad but if that wasn’t good enough for a game manager. Where do you go from there?


He did have both Chubb and Kareem, that’s true. Though a check of the game logs reveals that for whatever reason. Gus was the primary RB not Chubb, for a large part of the season. Maybe Chubb was dinged up, I don’t really remember.

But in his 4 years in CLE, baker never had a defense better than 20th. That surprised me, but every ranking system on the net agrees. Cleveland’s defense didn’t become great until after Baker was traded.
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Old 09-09-2024, 04:44 PM   #767
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He did have both Chubb and Kareem, that’s true. Though a check of the game logs reveals that for whatever reason. Gus was the primary RB not Chubb, for a large part of the season.

But in his 4 years in CLE, baker never had a defense better than 20th. That surprised me, but every ranking system on the net agrees. Cleveland’s defense didn’t become great until after Baker was traded.
Ok. That is news to me too.

So maybe I’m being overly harsh on Baker. I certainly have nothing against him. But I remember thinking at the time that Cleveland wasn’t going to get it done with him.
Maybe they would have.

They rolled the dice to try and get a QB that could carry a team not just manage a team. It failed spectacularly. But I don’t blame them for trying.
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Old 09-09-2024, 04:47 PM   #768
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Watson has a cap hit of 70 some million next year with 100 million dead cap if he is cut....
This beats the Danger Russ situation in Denver by a mile
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$375M to Tom Brady might come close.
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$375M to Tom Brady might come close.
The FOX & Brady deal is a really dumb contract. In fact, all of the big money deals for TV announcers are stupid (Romo/CBS, Aikman/ESPN, etc). People are not tuning in to watch NFL games because of the announcers. They tune in to watch the teams on the field.
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Brady may have to hold his own camera
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Man, that's why if you're a QB and you're injured anywhere in your arm/shoulder, just sit the **** down. Don't tough it out. When Baker pulled that shit it nearly ruined his career and absolutely set fire to Cleveland.
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The current Baker at his current salary is a bargain.
And maybe Baker was more injured than I remembered.
But he had a great D. He had Chubb and Karem. I guess I don’t really remember thinking his WR were particularly good or bad but if that wasn’t good enough for a game manager. Where do you go from there?
Well you could start by not allowing a known malcontent and prima donna like OBJ to poison the well with your QB.

They let his bitching absolutely ruin their relationship with Mayfield and Mayfield's relationship with the fans. It was organizational malpractice.
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Baker is playing pretty well in Tampa.
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Florio said in his contract there a clause that any undisclosed allegations goi9ng forward can void the deal. If he didn't specifically name this latest one prior they may be able to get out of this this deal get rid of him.
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He is actually. I saw quite a few good things Sunday.
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He is actually. I saw quite a few good things Sunday.
He'll be in trouble if/when Mike Evans slows down.

Evans is his security blanket. If all else fails, chuck it to Mike.

Which is what makes what Mahomes has done so spectacular. That guy's won the last 2 SBs with Kelce and a bunch of dudes that are on the fringes of the NFL (plus his rookie WR).

Brady's the only guy who's ever been able to accomplish what Mahomes has been able to accomplish with largely cast-off weapons.
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