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Now explain how Bowlen refusing to go into pocket makes it LESS plausible that the Broncos had a cash flow issue.
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Everyone can see who actually stopped, long ago, responding with anything resembling rational argument
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10-25-2024, 03:52 PM | #77871 |
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Let’s get back to talking about the Broncos.
I’m trying to figure out why Mo Pix has three less interceptions and only one less TD than Mahomes.
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I was already aware you’re easily impressed with sound and fury, signifying nothing.
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How the 'deferment' argument would actually be Fraud Explanation in Spoiler.
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Now lets talk about the good part, Cap analysis and how Bowlen was full of shit: What doesn't make sense with the "stadium funding" story is not only were the Broncos punished in December of 2001 for $29M in deferred payments for services rendered from 96 to 98 to Elway and Davis, but also in September of 2004 there was more punishment for further circumvention of the Salary cap. (Not to mention an unnamed agent was fined as well regarding the situation in 2004, almost like an agent was committing to contracts that he knew were illegal in structure and subverted the salary cap) If it was a simple 'deferment' like you suggest, it would have been a one and done punishment due to a simple "Oh shit, sorry, we didn't realize we couldn't do that" and not being punished twice because of further investigation finding further problems. And the only person that claimed there was no competitive advantage was Bowlen in a statement. The NFL, the Management Council, and NFL VP of Labor Relations Harold Henderson avoided any questions regarding competitive advantage, probably because they were smart enough to realize that if they basically called 2 Super Bowls bullshit that the legitimacy of the sport comes into question, and thats a whole other can of worms. Not to mention, in my opinion, some of the most damning evidence: While Elway's cap charges in his super bowl season were just 2.1M and 2.6M. The only 'elite' QB that wasn't making at least double that was Steve Young (who the 49ers were later found to be in violation of the cap at that time, and his salary was 3.5M) Let's look solely at Elway and Davis and that $29M (Confirmed numbers per NFL press release) in deferred payments from services rendered from 1996 to 1998. Terrell Davis total cap hit 96-98: $3,614,695 (https://overthecap.com/player/terrell-davis/7733) John Elway total cap hit 96-98: $8,831,446 (https://overthecap.com/player/john-elway/7777) 29M - (Davis Cap Hit) - (Elway Cap Hit) = $16,553,859... which is more than enough to almost pay both of those players their entire salary amounts AGAIN. And this is assuming that these numbers are best case scenario and assume all 3 years instead of just 2 years.. If its just 2 years that were circumvented, the numbers get ABSURD. What this means is that they each were paid about double what they actually counted against the cap. That's not a simple deferment. That's actively subverting the cap. All I have to say is there's a reason OverTheCap makes an average for superbowl winners and cap without Denver included in it's analysis.. and they explain it as such too. https://overthecap.com/nfl-salary-ca...champions-part
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10-25-2024, 04:41 PM | #77877 | |
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Nope, manchambo's right and I'm right. ----------------------------------- Thanks to all of you for letting me know real quick how to post images ... I tried the [ img ] code, tried attachments, url code, nothing. Got a few "red light" things, but no images. Yours is a really really old vBulletin version (that thank you was sarcastic) ----------------------------------- First bedempsey, I gotta see a list of names of all the these "added players" you're claiming ... we fielded very similar, even lesser rosters in 97 and 98 that we did the 2 or 3 years before, offense was ALL the same. In two years added just Darrien Gordon and Neil Smith on defense. So I'll be interested to see your long list... bedempsey: "provably false," ... and you think Elway "chased after Manning so hard?" sheesh, if there was some kinda world record for getting things wrong, you'd definitely be in the running: Manning explained at length why he chose Denver, and one of the main reasons was they didn't call him every day and ask "where are we on your list now?" He said John told him they wanted him, explained what they had to offer, told him what he would and wouldn't do, shook his hand and that was that. Damn, you really ARE a moron. Again, NO! The Chiefs did NOT get to where they are now by "drafting well," ... �� You're in the middle of one of the greatest two or three dynasties since the merger because of one guy, and one guy only (by the way, there's no shame in that). And Pasta Little Bitty, I'ma have to see "many" links to your "Many Elite League evaluators have (Broncos) with 0 total titles," otherwise yer just a liar ... this oughta be good....... TEX made several moron remarks too, only got time for one: "Two proven illegitimate titles. And they still don't have as many as the Chiefs!" ... say, Tex? That there is a "non-sentence" right there pard'ner. Read it six or eight more times, you'll see what I mean..... OKAY GUYS, PUT UP OR SHUT UP! . Last edited by BroncoBuff; 10-25-2024 at 05:08 PM.. |
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Okay guys, I'm ready willing and able to post proof how manchambo and I are correct.....
AND.... Still have that excellent history lesson I promised, to help you understand your obsession with Bronco hatred in here. BUT I NEED step by step explanation how to post these images, that shouldn't be too difficult. Last edited by BroncoBuff; 10-25-2024 at 05:06 PM.. |
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I don’t see, however, how you’ve accounted for proration in this. For example, it was documented that Elway was paid 4.8 million in 1998, even though the cap number was 2.5. He was paid 10 million in 1993 and 8 million in 96. This isn’t much different from Aikman, who had a salary cap number of 2.5 in 1995, with much larger payments in other years. https://overthecap.com/player/troy-aikman/7728 Davis is a bit different because he was a sixth round pick who signed a five year contract worth just 6.8 million in 1996. It’s hardly surprising his cap number was quite low considering his production. He signed a big extension in 1998 and that’s reflected in the 11.5 million paid to him in 1998. But that had a cap number of 2.4 due to proration. This was probably the most important component of the championship seasons—getting the best rusher in the league in the sixth round and ridiculously cheap for that reason at first.
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