Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 517

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Jerm · 10-28-2011, 09:55 AM

Big East is saying they're holding WVU to their 27 month commitment to the league but WV's press release is saying their membership takes affect July 1, 2012.

Interesting.

You would think WVU has to come next year to offset Mizzou leaving.

Mr. Plow · 10-28-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

A lot of people have been right, but no one has been 100% right on every minute detail because these situations are obviously very fluid. How else can you explain the SEC having a full press release written announcing Mizzou to the conference dated for last Saturday, one day after Mizzou was supposedly withdrawing? Is the SEC out of the loop too on their own expansion?

I couldn't make out the date on the pic of the press release you posted earlier - was it dated this past Saturday or next Monday?

According to the below, it was next Monday.

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Originally Posted by chiefs1968

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...ers-conference

SEC officials said Friday that the league's web vendor mistakenly published a news release Thursday night announcing Missouri as the conference's newest member.

Missouri officials are currently deciding whether to leave the Big 12 for the SEC. But, judging from the news release published on the SEC's website for a few minutes Thursday night, Missouri apparently already has made up its mind.

The news story on the SEC site had a release date of Oct. 31.

Mr. Plow · 10-28-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

I'd like to hear your answer here.

See below, I never mentioned last Saturday - you did. I was assuming that was what was on your pic of the press release.

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

A lot of people have been right, but no one has been 100% right on every minute detail because these situations are obviously very fluid. How else can you explain the SEC having a full press release written announcing Mizzou to the conference dated for last Saturday, one day after Mizzou was supposedly withdrawing? Is the SEC out of the loop too on their own expansion?

Mr. Plow · 10-28-2011, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefs1968

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...ers-conference

SEC officials said Friday that the league's web vendor mistakenly published a news release Thursday night announcing Missouri as the conference's newest member.

Missouri officials are currently deciding whether to leave the Big 12 for the SEC. But, judging from the news release published on the SEC's website for a few minutes Thursday night, Missouri apparently already has made up its mind.

The news story on the SEC site had a release date of Oct. 31.

Interesting quote on that press release......

""Missouri joins Texas A&M University as the league's two new institutions who will begin full membership on July 1, 2012."

Jerm · 10-28-2011, 10:13 AM

Didn't notice this at first...

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@RobertDEdwards Big 12 leaves #Missouri off West Virginia press release. "It is expected that the Big 12 Conference will be comprised of 10 Universities."

kepp · 10-28-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

Didn't notice this at first...

I'm pretty sure today isn't April 1st, but can someone verify that? I don't want to be let down.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 10-28-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp

I'm pretty sure today isn't April 1st, but can someone verify that? I don't want to be let down.

it's true. I don't know why anyone thinks it matters. Did anyone really think MU wasn't leaving?

Pitt Gorilla · 10-28-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

it's true. I don't know why anyone thinks it matters. Did anyone really think MU wasn't leaving?

Some people ON THIS SITE claimed that MU didn't have an offer. Seriously.

beer bacon · 10-28-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

http://goemaw.com/forum/index.php?to...2636#msg382636

Just so you know, that is contradicted by every other Mizzou "insider". Alden and Pinkel have been pushing for the SEC for a while. Pinkel especially got pissed off at all the LHN nonsense.

**HemiEd** · 10-28-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

it's true. I don't know why anyone thinks it matters. Did anyone really think MU wasn't leaving?

Someone sleeping under a big rock?

evenfall · 10-28-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Some people ON THIS SITE claimed that MU didn't have an offer. Seriously.

They were all listening to KK and his "there is no interest. None." song and dance.

**HemiEd** · 10-28-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

So can someone give me a rundown of all the conference moves that have taken place so far this year? I'm not reading 8000 posts. I'd appreciate it.

You are curious about someone other than Mizzou? This is a Mizzou thread dammit!

TCU to the BIG 12, WV looks imminent and maybe Louisville
aTm to SEC, and obviously Mizzou.
Syracuse and Pittsburgh left the Big East to join the ACC

Of course Nebraska and Colorado are old news correct?

If I left something out, please feel free to correct me.

evenfall · 10-28-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

You are curious about someone other than Mizzou? This is a Mizzou thread dammit!

TCU to the BIG 12, WV looks imminent and maybe Louisville
aTm to SEC, and obviously Mizzou.
Syracuse and Pittsburgh left the Big East to join the ACC

Of course Nebraska and Colorado are old news correct?

If I left something out, please feel free to correct me.

Texas blocked Louisville. Even though everyone else was in favor, as conference dictators they exercised veto power.

**Saul Good** · 10-28-2011, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd

You are curious about someone other than Mizzou? This is a Mizzou thread dammit!

TCU to the BIG 12, WV looks imminent and maybe Louisville
aTm to SEC, and obviously Mizzou.
Syracuse and Pittsburgh left the Big East to join the ACC

Of course Nebraska and Colorado are old news correct?

If I left something out, please feel free to correct me.

UCF went to the Big East.
Utah went to the PAC.
MWC and CUSA merged.

**Buehler445** · 10-28-2011, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd

You are curious about someone other than Mizzou? This is a Mizzou thread dammit!

TCU to the BIG 12, WV looks imminent and maybe Louisville
aTm to SEC, and obviously Mizzou.
Syracuse and Pittsburgh left the Big East to join the ACC

Of course Nebraska and Colorado are old news correct?

If I left something out, please feel free to correct me.

Thanks.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Jerm Mahomes > God Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $4818996	Big East is saying they're holding WVU to their 27 month commitment to the league but WV's press release is saying their membership takes affect July 1, 2012. Interesting. You would think WVU has to come next year to offset Mizzou leaving.
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