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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

epitome1170 · 10-27-2011, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Who the hell said that? He's a horrible game day coach. And I wouldn't let Yost or Steckel wash my car. ****ing idiots.

In a perfect world Pinkel would handle recruiting and we'd get a real coach and a real staff to run the damn team.

THIS!

Pinkel is an awesome recruiter... I don't think he will take a demotion though.

**HemiEd** · 10-27-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Who the hell said that? He's a horrible game day coach. And I wouldn't let Yost or Steckel wash my car. ****ing idiots.

In a perfect world Pinkel would handle recruiting and we'd get a real coach and a real staff to run the damn team.

Not sure anyone did, but I have literally read this whole thread and had the impression the sun rose and set in Pinkel. Call me stupid I guess.

Several posts proclaimed that Pinkel had built the program into a contender, from being towards the bottom of the conference. I do know that was said.

DJ's left nut · 10-27-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome1170

THIS!

Pinkel is an awesome recruiter... I don't think he will take a demotion though.

Pinkel's also a phenomenal administrator and generally a good leader. He's also a very good representative of the University.

**** demoting him - make him the AD.

We can find a better tactical coach (hell, I think Christensen is that guy) and we'd still get the benefit of all the things he does very well.

Love him or hate him - this is Gary Pinkel's program and without his efforts we are not getting this interest from the SEC. He's stubborn and occasionally he just doesn't seem to have his guys ready to play, but he's still no worse than an average game-coach (there are legitimately awful ones out there) and he adds a hell of a lot to the program outside of that.

epitome1170 · 10-27-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Not sure anyone did, but I have literally read this whole thread and had the impression the sun rose and set in Pinkel. Call me stupid I guess.

Several posts proclaimed that Pinkel had built the program into a contender, from being towards the bottom of the conference. I do know that was said.

That is true, but I don't personally believe he can get us to the next level.

evenfall · 10-27-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Really? This is the first I recall reading of a Mizzou loyalest being disenchanted with Pinkel.
I thought he was Nick Saben 2? No?

There are usually a few (dumb) voices out there saying he sucks, but he has built a fine football team to win games in the Big-whatever's-left. Every coach makes a mistake sometimes but he has won a hell of a lot of games over a number of years. Pinkel is a proven commodity.

He will need to adapt. He will need to come up with something to use inside the 10 on offense, and they will have to play better defense. We will need to improve our net punting average, we know how critical that is. But the recruits will be coming to make all that work.

Pinkel is a great head coach. He is looking forward to this challenge, and not only that, welcoming and advocating for it.

Frazod · 10-27-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Pinkel's also a phenomenal administrator and generally a good leader. He's also a very good representative of the University.

**** demoting him - make him the AD.

We can find a better tactical coach (hell, I think Christensen is that guy) and we'd still get the benefit of all the things he does very well.

Love him or hate him - this is Gary Pinkel's program and without his efforts we are not getting this interest from the SEC. He's stubborn and occasionally he just doesn't seem to have his guys ready to play, but he's still no worse than an average game-coach (there are legitimately awful ones out there) and he adds a hell of a lot to the program outside of that.

They can promote him to ****ing chancellor if it gets him off the field. While I appreciate what he's done for the school and the program, he's NOT the guy we need coaching this team.

Frazod · 10-27-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by evenfall

There are usually a few (dumb) voices out there saying he sucks, but he has built a fine football team to win games in the Big-whatever's-left. Every coach makes a mistake sometimes but he has won a hell of a lot of games over a number of years. Pinkel is a proven commodity.

He will need to adapt. He will need to come up with something to use inside the 10 on offense, and they will have to play better defense. We will need to improve our net punting average, we know how critical that is. But the recruits will be coming to make all that work.

Pinkel is a great head coach. He is looking forward to this challenge, and not only that, welcoming and advocating for it.

He can't even beat Kansas State any more - what the hell do you think's going to happen when he goes up against LSU?

Mr. Plow · 10-27-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by evenfall

But the recruits will be coming to make all that work.

awesome.

LiveSteam · 10-27-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

I am a fan of The Boys in Blue.

get back in the closet

evenfall · 10-27-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

He can't even beat Kansas State any more - what the hell do you think's going to happen when he goes up against LSU?

They need a real QB, in my opinion. Pinkel is fine.

mnchiefsguy · 10-27-2011, 04:39 PM

KK says Rick Perry was a driving force for aTm going to the SEC. Everything I have read has indicated that Perry has stayed out of the situation entirely.

DJ's left nut · 10-27-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

KK says Rick Perry was a driving force for aTm going to the SEC. Everything I have read has indicated that Perry has stayed out of the situation entirely.

Perry was a vocal supporter, but I've seen nothing to indicate that he fueled this.

I have a friend who's boss is actually on the A&M Board or Regents (unfortunately his 'scoops' tended to be stuff that was already starting to trickle out so I never had any self-important "hey you guys" moments...). He told me that the entire A&M board was furious about Texas and the LHN and was ready to go. He only gave me one direct quote from his boss and it was "Texas has violated a sacred trust..."

Granted, that's sappy bullshit, but it shows what everyone associated with A&M was thinking. Rick Perry didn't fuel anything, the Aggies were gone on their own.

Kietzman is an ignorant shithead. He truly knows nothing about anything.

mnchiefsguy · 10-27-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Perry was a vocal supporter, but I've seen nothing to indicate that he fueled this.

I have a friend who's boss is actually on the A&M Board or Regents (unfortunately his 'scoops' tended to be stuff that was already starting to trickle out so I never had any self-important "hey you guys" moments...). He told me that the entire A&M board was furious about Texas and the LHN and was ready to go. He only gave me one direct quote from his boss and it was "Texas has violated a sacred trust..."

Granted, that's sappy bullshit, but it shows what everyone associated with A&M was thinking. Rick Perry didn't fuel anything, the Aggies were gone on their own.

Kietzman is an ignorant shithead. He truly knows nothing about anything.

That is what I figured, and had read. It was to be expected though I suppose....today was blame the politicians day for KK.

KChiefs1 · 10-27-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

I didn't even know that kid existed before this thread. He is one massive douchenozzle, though.

Coming from you that's a helluva compliment! I should be in the poll...I want some write-in votes!

Los Pollos Hermanos · 10-27-2011, 05:27 PM

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