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Old 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM  
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MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?

Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:20 PM   #751
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A good way to shore up the run defense would be to have an explosive offense that jumps out to a lead, forcing the opponent to pass more than they'd like to...
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:22 PM   #752
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:27 PM   #753
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A good way to shore up the run defense would be to have an explosive offense that jumps out to a lead, forcing the opponent to pass more than they'd like to...
So let's say we start off with an early lead against Dallas. What's to stop Ezekiel Elliott from running for 6 yards a carry on their possession while keeping our defense on the field for the next 8 minutes?

Cause that's literally what happened when Leveon Bell shoved 171 yards down our throats

Buehler?
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:30 PM   #754
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So let's say we start off with an early lead against Dallas. What's to stop Ezekiel Elliott from running for 6 yards a carry on their possession while keeping our defense on the field for the next 8 minutes?

Cause that's literally what happened when Leveon Bell shoved 171 yards down our throats

Buehler?
Hopefully Jaye Howard and Allen Bailey can help a tad, maybe some ILB improvement, and more than anything some schematic changes in certain situations.

But even with those things, the defense and running game will need to be top 3 units in the league to give us a chance with Smith.
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:11 AM   #755
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Whatever, you go ahead and stick with Smiff and be wrong

I'm ready to join the modern NFL
I am too. With a new good QB. Smith isn't that nor is Foles.
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Old 01-24-2017, 03:47 AM   #756
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Nick Foles isn't a turnover prone QB.

His career INT% is LOWER than Alex Smith's.
Yeah only because of the first season with Chip Kelly which was a fluke. Look at the rest of his career.

2012: 6 TDs 5 INT
2014: 13 TDs 10 INT
2015: 7 TDs 10 INT

Seems like we'd be going from one problem to the other. Like I said, if we need a new vet QB, roll your dice with Romo with a rookie behind him.
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Old 01-24-2017, 07:19 AM   #757
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There's honestly no point debating this anymore. Regardless of what you think about Smith, the most likely outcome is that the Chiefs are going to continue to hang on to him as our starter for far too long and will not have a QB ready to take over when he's done here. We'll either sign a journeyman off the scrap heap or trade for another brokedick like Smith. Smith isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
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Old 01-24-2017, 08:04 AM   #758
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Can't believe people are wanting Foles to play next year. The last thing the team needs is for Foles to play just good enough to be kept around.

Draft a QB and immediately start the process of him taking the job from Alex in 2018.
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Old 01-24-2017, 08:11 AM   #759
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Andy Reid was outcoached by Mike Tomlin. Tomlin isn't the best X's an O's head coach. Kind of sad.

Smith is Smith. Good enough to manage you to a one and done in the playoffs. If you are happy with that, keep them both. If you aspire for more, then changes need to be made.
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Old 01-24-2017, 08:11 AM   #760
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There's honestly no point debating this anymore.
but people will do so all offseason.. and why? because they are bored to death and will desperately need to yap with others about something that is hot-button contentious.

So while they will claim to want all of the people that are.. grudgingly accepting of Smith for one more year.. to go away.. they really want them to stay.. or they would be left with very little else to battle over.

So here we will go again. Yet another offseason of the SAME ole shit.
( for those that tune in every day, that is )
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Old 01-24-2017, 08:18 AM   #761
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Andy Reid was outcoached by Mike Tomlin. Tomlin isn't the best X's an O's head coach. Kind of sad.

Smith is Smith. Good enough to manage you to a one and done in the playoffs. If you are happy with that, keep them both. If you aspire for more, then changes need to be made.
Why was Reid outcoached when open WRs all over the field were routinely missed? He cant coach and play QB to.
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Why was Reid outcoached when open WRs all over the field were routinely missed? He cant coach and play QB to.
It's up to Reid to hold Smith accountable. It's up to Reid to hold the WR's and TE's accountable for their drops and penalties, etc. Smith missed a few, but it is hyperbole to act like everyone was open all the time.
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It's up to Reid to hold Smith accountable. It's up to Reid to hold the WR's and TE's accountable for their drops and penalties, etc. Smith missed a few, but it is hyperbole to act like everyone was open all the time.
What do you mean by accountable? Replace them?
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Put any other playoff qb on our team, except for Osweiler, and the chiefs represent the AFC in the Superbowl. It's that simple. Smith is the problem. An ounce of pressure, he ceases to be a qb and becomes a running back. He missed a wide open tyreek hill due to this. Get a capable qb, this is a championship team.
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Put any other playoff qb on our team, except for Osweiler, and the chiefs represent the AFC in the Superbowl. It's that simple. Smith is the problem. An ounce of pressure, he ceases to be a qb and becomes a running back. He missed a wide open tyreek hill due to this. Get a capable qb, this is a championship team.
Andy Reid isn't beating Belichick. Did you see the Pats receivers dropping balls on big plays? Taking delay of game penalties? Shoving Steelers and getting 15 yard penalties because they lost their cool? Not being able to stop the run? You think the Pats still have Wilson on the roster after a few years of alligator arming it?
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