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Some film guy on the twitter today watched our BUF film and made the point that we are real slow on offense right now.

But man if you have Hollywood, Pacheco, Hop doing his thing as a matchup problem, Kelce going full blast and Worthy who is getting better...

by playoffs it might be a night and day attack.
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Some film guy on the twitter today watched our BUF film and made the point that we are real slow on offense right now.

But man if you have Hollywood, Pacheco, Hop doing his thing as a matchup problem, Kelce going full blast and Worthy who is getting better...

by playoffs it might be a night and day attack.
This discussion has been divvied up across 3 threads. But yeah, if the offense is slow whoever is putting the personnel rotations on the field is ****ing up.

IMO, Mecole Hardman is being woefully underutilized right now, as is Samaje Perine.
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This discussion has been divvied up across 3 threads. But yeah, if the offense is slow whoever is putting the personnel rotations on the field is ****ing up.

IMO, Mecole Hardman is being woefully underutilized right now, as is Samaje Perine.
On Mecole, I think it's that he and Worthy play the same spot largely and the kid needs the reps a lot more than Hardman. You are glad to have him for a pinch if you need him to step up, but I don't think it's ideal to have him and Worthy out there together a lot.

The preseason roster was perfect for the lineup, you had your safety net in Kelce, you had your YAC guy in Rice, Hollywood was going to be the three-level winner who did a bit of everything but mostly intermediate, and then Worthy as a rookie was just gonna be the deep guy with some gadget plays.

Good news is they might be able to get that going again here soon. No Rice, but Hopkins can at least make plays even if he isn't a YAC threat.
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So don't pigeonhole them into the same niche then. We're gearing up to start the home stretch of the regular season, and it's time for Worthy to be more than a gimmick and deep ball target. They started that against Buffalo and then maddeningly went away from it after Worthy didn't get his feet in bounds on a pretty lousy ball from Mahomes.
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On Mecole, I think it's that he and Worthy play the same spot largely and the kid needs the reps a lot more than Hardman. You are glad to have him for a pinch if you need him to step up, but I don't think it's ideal to have him and Worthy out there together a lot.

The preseason roster was perfect for the lineup, you had your safety net in Kelce, you had your YAC guy in Rice, Hollywood was going to be the three-level winner who did a bit of everything but mostly intermediate, and then Worthy as a rookie was just gonna be the deep guy with some gadget plays.

Good news is they might be able to get that going again here soon. No Rice, but Hopkins can at least make plays even if he isn't a YAC threat.
Disagree. Worthy has been a solely deep guy and Hardman is largely a gimmick guy. But the play in the Super Bowl play shows that you can't just forget about him, and some of those reverse plays would be pretty hard on a man defense. Then you can fake him and leak him out in space and hopefully get the ball to him without the CBs getting their hands on him.
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So don't pigeonhole them into the same niche then. We're gearing up to start the home stretch of the regular season, and it's time for Worthy to be more than a gimmick and deep ball target. They started that against Buffalo and then maddeningly went away from it after Worthy didn't get his feet in bounds on a pretty lousy ball from Mahomes.

That was really annoying. Is Mahomes that petty after Worthy missed the catch? Or did they just decide no need to have successful passing plays to him and hope that he gets looks in the regular flow. I’m doubtful the Bills figured out how to remove him from the game as soon as we decided we wanted to get him heavily involved.
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So don't pigeonhole them into the same niche then. We're gearing up to start the home stretch of the regular season, and it's time for Worthy to be more than a gimmick and deep ball target. They started that against Buffalo and then maddeningly went away from it after Worthy didn't get his feet in bounds on a pretty lousy ball from Mahomes.
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This discussion has been divvied up across 3 threads. But yeah, if the offense is slow whoever is putting the personnel rotations on the field is ****ing up.

IMO, Mecole Hardman is being woefully underutilized right now, as is Samaje Perine.
Look when people start having their meltdown in the Xavier Worthy thread and that goes on for 10 pages, it tends to happen.

Idk why people do it, but they do.
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he had probably 20 square yards to throw the ball into on Worthy's outside shoulder that would've led to an easy catch and run for a TD.

Instead he threw it to the sideline for no reason whatsoever.

Yeah, it was a bad ball.
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he had probably 20 square yards to throw the ball into on Worthy's outside shoulder that would've led to an easy catch and run for a TD.

Instead he threw it to the sideline for no reason whatsoever.

Yeah, it was a bad ball.
That's because he is throwing to a spot that he has practiced on that play time and time again. But lets say for the sake of argument it wasn't a great pass. OK.

Its still the 2nd time Worthy ****ed up a pass that 98 out of 100 NFL WR's catch EASILY.

Worthy HAS to catch those passes.
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That's because he is throwing to a spot that he has practiced on that play time and time again. But lets say for the sake of argument it wasn't a great pass. OK.

Its still the 2nd time Worthy ****ed up a pass that 98 out of 100 NFL WR's catch EASILY.
Why would one presume that was the spot that ball was supposed to go to? He can read the field, he can see where the coverage is (or in this case, isn't).

On of Mahomes greatest strengths is knowing where to put the ball. That most assuredly wasn't where he wanted it.

As to whether or not Worthy messed up - that's not really the question. The question was whether or not it was a bad ball from Mahomes. It absolutely was. There's no precision spot to put a deep ball - we all know this. You put it where your receiver can run under it to make a play. And the window to do that and pick up massive YAC was enormous.

Even if Worthy catches the ball, PM's ball placement took, what, 40 yards of YAC off the table?

It was a bad ball.
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