****OFFICIAL Raiders suck thread****

[Hammock Parties]

So much fail in that franchise they need an official thread like the Donkeys.

Let's get it going.

Raiders WR Antonio Brown has been placed on the non-football injury list to begin camp, per source

— Field Yates (@FieldYates) July 26, 2019

[CarlosCarson27]

There's a big difference between "Officials directly affecting the outcome" and "The NFL is rigged".

No, there really isn't. There absolutely isn't lol.
Directly affecting the game equals fixing the game.
They aren't making mistakes. They are doing exactly as told to.
It's as simple as that.
Someone above said, "they're just really bad at their job.
Lol years of training and 10 to 20 years of employment means they are doing exactly what the nfl wants or they'd be gone.
It doesn't compare to you running a 7-11. Multi billion industries don't make mistakes.Not like that.

[CarlosCarson27]

Originally Posted by Eureka

It's tough for some to admit that teams go up and down from year to year.

KC finally loses a game after a 13 game winning stretch and it's the Refs fault/decision.

It's tough for some to admit how artificial the ups and downs are.

[Shoes]

Carlos and BlackOp jerk each other off wearing their tinfoil hats while watching conspiracy theory shows.

[CarlosCarson27]

Originally Posted by Shoes

Carlos and BlackOp jerk each other off wearing their tinfoil hats while watching conspiracy theory shows.

No, we don't watch conspiracy shows.


...cute sneakers

[stumppy]

They just wear tin foil hats and jerk each other off.

[Mecca]

I 100% think they do their best to keep games competitive though. So rigged might be strong but you best believe they don't want halftime scores that are 31-7.

[CarlosCarson27]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I 100% think they do their best to keep games competitive though. So rigged might be strong but you best believe they don't want halftime scores that are 31-7.

By keeping a team in the game, you are artificially helping them to win. That equals fixing, no matter how you slice it.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I 100% think they do their best to keep games competitive though. So rigged might be strong but you best believe they don't want halftime scores that are 31-7.

Yet they get them anyway. Every week.

So apparently they suck at rigging...or they're not rigged.

[CarlosCarson27]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yet they get them anyway. Every week.

So apparently they suck at rigging...or they're not rigged.

And every week, the team in the lead seems to forget how to play football in the second half. In the real world, games would be boring and decided in the 3rd qtr almost 90% of the time.
But somehow, in magical tv land, the last 2 minutes seem to matter more often then not.

[KChiefs1]

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Where was BlackOp on that bullshit fumble call during the Patriots game two weeks ago? That was a bullshit ass call that went our way.

I actually called them out on it..on this forum.

It wasn't taking off a TD bad though ...as KC punted the next play and a penalty followed. It cost them 30 yards of field position...so dont pretend it removed points they had already made. It was a really bad call...but was more about protecting their Goldenboy. Hoyer/Stidman weren't going to win that game...or magically gain momentum. They had scored 3 points through 3 quarters.

I noticed you conveniently vanished when I predicted the Raiders would win in their opener against the Saints...and there would be lop-sided officiating to ensure it. ****ing hypocrite...never seen anyone get so bent out of shape over someone calling the NFL out on their horseshit...is Goodell an ex-lover or something?

Truth is YOU need to feel intelligent...that's why you always follow me around in these types of threads. You'll never change my observations on this topic...and for what ever reason think if you get enough people to thumbs up your take...you've accomplished something.

I really dont care...you are always talking bullshit to someone.

Also...a fair amount of their season tickets were bought by corporations, casinos and people wanting to turn a buck on the resale to visitors. It's Vegas in the fall/winter...convention season. Don't pretend there was a mad dash by the locals to support the Raiders...and dont pretend if they suck, people will still be interested in watching them. The Raiders are like a Cirque du Soleil show...something do while you are in Vegas. It gives opposing fans a reason to go there...

[Sorry]

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88

No, there really isn't. There absolutely isn't lol.
Directly affecting the game equals fixing the game.
They aren't making mistakes. They are doing exactly as told to.
It's as simple as that.
Someone above said, "they're just really bad at their job.
Lol years of training and 10 to 20 years of employment means they are doing exactly what the nfl wants or they'd be gone.
It doesn't compare to you running a 7-11. Multi billion industries don't make mistakes.Not like that.

You can’t even ref a middle school football game on the field in real time, Let alone do it at the nfl level

[CarlosCarson27]

Originally Posted by Sorry

You can’t even ref a middle school football game on the field in real time, Let alone do it at the nfl level

That has nothing to do with it. Meaningless remark.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by stumppy

He's something. It takes a "special" kind of person to continually spew his kind of bullshit interlaced with intermittent times of lucidity.

Originally Posted by BlackOp

They arent going rig every season for the same team...unless your owner controls the television contracts.

They caught so much blow-back from the Rams fiasco..including the entire city of NO boycotting the Superbowl and billboards being put up...that they had to create a new rule...which they had no real intention of enforcing. It was just PR damage control...the SB was the least watched in 2 decades.

The entire NFL watching public wanted a Brees/Mahomes SB...and both were denied due to questionable 4th quarter officiating.

Chargers are decimated by injuries...again. How are they going to pimp 2 teams in the same division as their #1 moneymaker and ratings darling? The NFL will do what it can...but the Chargers are a lost cause this year.

If Herbert looks as good as he has...2021 will be their year of favoritism. They might not need much...

The maximum the officials can sway an outcome is around 10 points without widespread attention...and the teams still have be somewhat competitive. Simms called out the DPI no-call on the Raiders. Word travels fast these days. They couldn't push the Jets into the winner's circle...even if they wanted to.

The Rams sold out to make a SB push...then had to dismantle their team. There was already a spotlight on them after how they got to the SB...you really think the NFL is going to risk pimping them again..in back-to-back years?..after terrible SB ratings?

I was honestly surprised the Raiders didn't get the final spot...but Jacobs went on IR at the end. They were 6-4 at the time I predicted it... then were outscored 74-12 in back-to-back blow-outs. No amount officiating can massage that...then the Titans beat them by 22. They gave up 116 points in a 3 week span...you cant rig your way out of being terrible. Most games are decided by one score or less..

There was also the threat of their stadium being behind schedule..and playing at UNLV for a season.

They can sway a game by a lot more than 10 if they want to. Hell, they just swayed the Raiders game by 18. And they could’ve easily gotten away with a few more offensive or defensive holding calls or non-calls without widespread criticism.

I agree that some games are manipulated, but I don’t really buy that playoff teams are pre-planned, outcomes plotted, etc. I think it’s generally just an attempt to maintain a TV audience. Or, naturally, the Jordan treatment that stars in any league tend to have.

There appeared to be a pretty clear attempt to prevent a KC blowout in the first half vs Houston last year, Pittsburgh the year before, and the Raiders this year. But in all three cases, the officiating evened out after the score was tied or close. I don’t think they necessarily cared who won the games as long as ratings were preserved.

There is plenty of evidence to support that this happens. Not much evidence to support the theory that the NFL steers the regular season and postseason toward the most profitable outcomes. If this were happening, why would the smallest market have one of the most successful teams in history (Packers)? How was Buffalo allowed to dominate the AFC for years? The city of LA has what, one SB win almost 40 years ago? How has Pittsburgh been one of the most successful franchises? Why did it take so long for Philly to break through? Why haven’t the Bears won anything in the last 35 years? Why don’t the Jets ever win?

[CarlosCarson27]

There is plenty of evidence to support that this happens. Not much evidence to support the theory that the NFL steers the regular season and postseason toward the most profitable outcomes. If this were happening, why would the smallest market have one of the most successful teams in history (Packers)? How was Buffalo allowed to dominate the AFC for years? The city of LA has what, one SB win almost 40 years ago? How has Pittsburgh been one of the most successful franchises? Why did it take so long for Philly to break through? Why haven’t the Bears won anything in the last 35 years? Why don’t the Jets ever win?

That thinking is too simplistic. They do it for many more ritualistic reasons than just money and all the leagues are in unison. Also, profit sharing nullifies the need for the major markets like Chicago/New York to win every year.
What happened before Raiders left? Warriors went to multiple finals and San Jose Sharks went deep in playoffs and SF went to SB. That cushions the blowback. Rams leave LA and Lakers go to 17 finals between between like 1979 and now. Nice way to make up for lost nfl money. It's not just nfl, 1 plus 1. There's more variables for billion dollar industries.
Missouri- nothing for decades and then boom 2014_15, 2 series for royals, 2018 Blues win Stanley and Chief's win SB. All happens right around the time they lose the Rams.
Coincidence, my ass.