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Old 07-20-2022, 01:11 PM  
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Old 07-15-2024, 04:40 PM   #736
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I'm just miffed by the Scorpion Ballistas, or lack thereof.

1. In the original GOT series, they introduced the Scorpion as some sort of new technology designed to fight off a dragon. Ok, great. Maybe it was poor writing, innaccurate, or im just mis-remembering, but i swear they made it seem like it was new tech.

2. So then we go back in time to HoD and they're discussing using Scorpions. Whoa....ok, so they WEREN'T new technology, they had them hundreds of years prior to GOT? Sure, i mean that makes MORE sense really since there woulda been more dragons around and thus a bigger need. But of course that's a major contradiction.

3. So....if we know Dragons are the biggest threat to pretty much every kingdom in the world....how is every castle NOT guarded by a slew of Scorpion ballistas?

In a series so well written....the fact that Scorpions are nowhere to be found is some serious unspoken plot armor.

I seem to recall that In GOT times giant dragons were just as much historical myth as they were fact for large parts of the population. It doesn’t seem that unreasonable that it would take time to rediscover a defense for them once they finally actually show up.

And I can totally buy the idea that if you do post dragon defenses you are basically advertising you don’t support Targaryens or their allies and are happy to invite a fight. Probably not the best idea.
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Old 07-15-2024, 05:42 PM   #737
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EDIT: Reddit says that the Dornish created the Scorpion used in it battles prior to the events of House of the Dragon.
Dorne definitely had them during Aegon the Conqueror’s lifetime. They killed one his sister’s dragons, Meraxes, with a scorpion, IIRC. There’s some badass art of the aftermath.
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Old 07-15-2024, 07:08 PM   #738
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Dorne definitely had them during Aegon the Conqueror’s lifetime. They killed one his sister’s dragons, Meraxes, with a scorpion, IIRC. There’s some badass art of the aftermath.
I recently read about Meraxes death. Don't know much about that storyline/period. That's a dope pic.
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Old 07-15-2024, 07:14 PM   #739
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I recently read about Meraxes death. Don't know much about that storyline/period. That's a dope pic.
Agreed.

Imagine the guy who let that bolt fly.. he probably fathered so many Sands off the strength of that kill lol

The Dornish were actually super badass. They were the only kingdom who didn’t get conquered by Aegon and his sisters.
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Agreed.

Imagine the guy who let that bolt fly.. he probably fathered so many Sands off the strength of that kill lol

The Dornish were actually super badass. They were the only kingdom who didn’t get conquered by Aegon and his sisters.
Yea, it really makes the Dornish sound even more badass, especially considering they never had to deal with a ****ing dragon before Aegon came to Westeros (right? Lol).
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So, we've finally reached the classic "setup" episode for this season.

Good, shit should start kicking off soon.
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Old 07-17-2024, 03:29 AM   #742
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So, we've finally reached the classic "setup" episode for this season.

Good, shit should start kicking off soon.
They’re setting up the Blacks to get a couple of important dragonriders.
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Setting up bastards and married off cousins to ride dragons. I assume this is the start of the dragons downfall. This could open up dragons with loyalty to their own houses. Is this where dragons start killing off all dragons until there are none left?


Also come on there has to be a wild dragon somewhere in the wild right? They came from the wild. Surely not every single wild dragon was tamed. I assume they stole a clutch of eggs to start. Surely the mothers of those dragons had more.
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Setting up bastards and married off cousins to ride dragons. I assume this is the start of the dragons downfall. This could open up dragons with loyalty to their own houses. Is this where dragons start killing off all dragons until there are none left?


Also come on there has to be a wild dragon somewhere in the wild right? They came from the wild. Surely not every single wild dragon was tamed. I assume they stole a clutch of eggs to start. Surely the mothers of those dragons had more.

They seem to be compacting the storyline a bit, but the source material featured wild dragons living on dragon stone.
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The "wtf where are the scorpions?" thing is an unfortunate side effect of "writers typically suck at scale & numbers" thing.

For Westerosis to plausibly forget a usable dragon countermeasure would need about another 100 years of history to elapse between Danaerys crossing the sea and the death of the last dragon in King's Landing.
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The "wtf where are the scorpions?" thing is an unfortunate side effect of "writers typically suck at scale & numbers" thing.

For Westerosis to plausibly forget a usable dragon countermeasure would need about another 100 years of history to elapse between Danaerys crossing the sea and the death of the last dragon in King's Landing.
Someone mentioned that politically it would not look good to be ruled by the dragons blood and have scorpions on your walls. Likely they were taken down or dismantled to be used for something else.
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Someone mentioned that politically it would not look good to be ruled by the dragons blood and have scorpions on your walls. Likely they were taken down or dismantled to be used for something else.
The Targs didn't need them until the Dance considering they had control of the claimed ones and the wild ones just kinda ****ed around and ate livestock idk.
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