2025 Wide Receivers

[smithandrew051]

Let’s not draft morons this time.

Who do you like?

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

lol, okay. Well, you have your facts and I have mine. At the end of the day, there’s no metric that says JWat was a a significantly better WR than either JuJu or DHop, and yet he somehow still took twice as many snaps than either of those two.

Your facts are wrong because you're ignoring the contextual reality of the season.

Yes, it is a fact that Justin Watson played more snaps than either Hopkins or Smith-Schuster.

But that isn't because the team thought he was better overall or was being stupid.

It's because:

Hopkins was acquired midseason. He played 23 snaps the week he was acquired, so throw out that outlier. He then paced for what would have been 629 snaps over the full season, despite being a mid-year add.

Smith-Schuster was a depth add who was behind the Chiefs' best WR in the pecking order to start the season, then got hurt. So the first three games of the season he was a second-string player. Then he missed, effectively, four games with a hamstring injury. By the time he was back, they had acquired Hopkins, too. Hilariously, his "healthy" games played snap total is identical to Hopkins' (629).

Watson was healthy and available all year, played 97 percent of snaps in the meaningless Week 18 game against Denver, and was a better fit for the role in the offense the injured Marquise Brown vacated. Watson's role changed when Rice went down, and it changed again when Hopkins was acquired and Smith-Schuster came back. His snap count totals were driven by his availability, injuries, and circumstance.

His pace over games 1-3 was fewer than 500 snaps.

This isn't rocket science analysis. Pretty common sense to see what his snap count totals were higher than Hopkins and Smith-Schuster.

Being mad about Watson getting more snaps than those dudes is like being mad that Kareem Hunt out-snapped Pacheco.

[kccrow]

I'm with Duncan et al here on Watson. He got snaps by default, not by choice.

If Rashee Rice never gets injured, his snaps probably drop to under 500, maybe 450. His first 3 games of the season, when Rice was playing, he averaged 29 snaps per game. After that, he went into the 50's.

If Marquise Brown never gets injured, his snaps probably drop to 300-350 because Brown was starting to get 40+ snaps a game in the playoffs.

If you then also add in JuJu being healthy, the guy might have been on the field for 200-300 snaps.

It's all relative to injuries.

Justin Watson wasn' this team's 4th best choice much less 2nd.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Hey, whatever. Season's over. Andy did what he did, for whatever reasons. We'll never really know. Just figured that now we could at least finally be honest about it. Guess not.

But if we were talking about the Raiders putting Jwat out there as much or more than Davante Adams or Jakobi Myers we'd all be laughing our collective asses off at just how epically stupid the Raiders were.


Bottom line, I was agreeing with you. Put the best players on the field as much as possible. Players over plays.

What the **** nonsense is this? I mean, really, dude.

Are you trying to say that Andy Reid had Davante Adams and Jacobi Meyers available to him all season long and just played Watson for some unknown reason?

I mean, we all know that you LOVE Dhop, but he didn't even get to the team until mid-season. Worthy was a rookie who's snaps increased as the season went on, which is expected. What WAS NOT expected is losing Brown for nearly the entire season and Rice for all but the first 3 games.

This isn't hard. It's no conspiracy. Watson was slated to be the number 4 or 5, and injuries meant he had to play much, much more than anticipated.

You're just being ridiculous here. It's like you refused to look at context or reality whatsoever. It's delusional.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Bob McGinn reports from scouts is always the best.

Hmm.

Well, Josh Conerly or Derrick Harmon it is!


(kicks the ground in frustrating fashion)

[RunKC]

Sorry staylor. This kid is going on day 2

Sources: Washington State WR Kyle Williams visited the #Patriots this week and has at least five more team visits scheduled in the coming weeks, with the potential for more.

Williams is coming off an exceptional season, recording 70 catches for 1,198 yards and 14 TDs. @CSimmsQB… pic.twitter.com/KXl6X4X2Lh

— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) March 27, 2025

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Sorry staylor. This kid is going on day 2

Sources: Washington State WR Kyle Williams visited the #Patriots this week and has at least five more team visits scheduled in the coming weeks, with the potential for more.

Williams is coming off an exceptional season, recording 70 catches for 1,198 yards and 14 TDs. @CSimmsQB… pic.twitter.com/KXl6X4X2Lh

— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) March 27, 2025

Yea seems like people have finally realized that this guy is a really good WR prospect.

[DJ's left nut]

Hey, I think I was on Williams first!

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'll just use this as a place to occasionally tuck guys who I like.

Kyle Williams, WR - WSU.

Really interesting player, IMO. Really like his movement skills, good route runner, nice size and I think his speed is good, maybe not great.

Problem is we don't have a 5th and I'd be surprised if he's my favorite guy on the board at the back do the 4th.

That said, he might be my favorite WR left at that point and if so, I might take him there anyway or look for a trade down and hope to land him mid 5th.

As a comparison, I'm pretty positive I like him more than Wease and Theo is going as high as the third in some mocks.

Just one of those guys I think I'm a little higher on than most.

Seems like the industry has finally caught up to various teams (and me) in their outlook on him. I just couldn't find anything wrong with him. He looks for all the world like a solid NFL receiver.

[RunKC]

Staylor get your ass in here! Another Miami skill weapon having a visit with us.

Kid looks like a nice developmental WR prospect. 6 ft, 200 lbs, 4.44 speed

[SAGA45]

a clipped video from a podcast is making it's rounds showing WR Tetairoa McMillan saying: "I don't watch football... I don't like watching film either"

the host said it was "from the offseason" as if it was a recent recording

I want to clear this up: the video was filmed TWO… pic.twitter.com/sG2GOcF3Ip

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) March 29, 2025

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by SAGA45

a clipped video from a podcast is making it's rounds showing WR Tetairoa McMillan saying: "I don't watch football... I don't like watching film either"

the host said it was "from the offseason" as if it was a recent recording

I want to clear this up: the video was filmed TWO… pic.twitter.com/sG2GOcF3Ip

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) March 29, 2025

Crazy, cause I watch videos of my sales calls before and after work. Jokes.

I don’t think this is as big deal as it’s being made out to be.

[SAGA45]

Hmmm...

Tyrone Broden, WR, Bowling Green/Arkansas
6"7" 200lbs...unofficial 4.22/4.32/4.37 40 times and 11'4" broad at pro day. Actual vid of 4.22 time embedded below, however.

Former 3-star recruit. Redshirt senior who went from the MAC to the SEC which is jnteresting. It's usually the other way around. Reports say he's raw and needs route refinement but has +traits well worth developing.

7th Rd/UDFA Target?

Big time pro day for Arkansas WR Tyrone Broden (6’7”, 200 lbs), who is looking to become the first WR at 6’7” or taller to be drafted since Harold Carmichael (6’8”) in 1971.

40: 4.37 (A few hand times were lower)
Broad: 11’4”👀
V: 35”
SS: 4.40

Production in the SEC or at… pic.twitter.com/58PNSF7Ruz

— Ryan Fowler (@_RyanFowler_) March 20, 2025

#400 Tyrone Broden played with Quintin Morris back at Bowling Green, put up a Pro Day 4.37 forty (3rd among all Pro Days so far, per @alexkatson).
Height: 6-7 Weight: 198https://t.co/tBVOIFqRqg

— Dean Kindig (@TCBILLS_Astro) March 20, 2025

pic.twitter.com/rbLegzPICc

— 𝐓𝐲𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐁𝐫𝐨𝐝𝐞𝐧 (@TyroneBroden) March 17, 2025

pic.twitter.com/0RREDw51XI

— 𝐓𝐲𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐁𝐫𝐨𝐝𝐞𝐧 (@TyroneBroden) March 17, 2025

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Staylor get your ass in here! Another Miami skill weapon having a visit with us.

Kid looks like a nice developmental WR prospect. 6 ft, 200 lbs, 4.44 speed

Based on his one season as a Hurricane...not a fan.

[smithandrew051]

Where do you guys see Isaiah Bond getting drafted?

Projections seem to have him in the 2nd or 3rd. Seems like a typical Reid receiver.

You can never have too much speed.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Where do you guys see Isaiah Bond getting drafted?

Projections seem to have him in the 2nd or 3rd. Seems like a typical Reid receiver.

You can never have too much speed.

If I had to guess I’d say early 3rd. Maybe a team takes him late 2nd but he’s got some character concerns.

He would be exactly what we need though. The kid gets open and has sold hands. Tons of juice. I saw with my own eyes what happened when Hollywood came back in the first Texans game in December. The separation we had was amazing.

He seems like an Andy Reid guy. Would love to have him at 66.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

If I had to guess I’d say early 3rd. Maybe a team takes him late 2nd but he’s got some character concerns.

He would be exactly what we need though. The kid gets open and has sold hands. Tons of juice. I saw with my own eyes what happened when Hollywood came back in the first Texans game in December. The separation we had was amazing.

He seems like an Andy Reid guy. Would love to have him at 66.

Jermaine Burton ran as well as expected and went in the mid 3rd.

Bond ran slower than expected and people have the same character concerns with him that they had with Burton.

I could see him falling into the 4th round at this point. Probably not far into it, but pick 110ish seems possible.

EDIT: NM -- Burton also ran slower than expected (forgot that part) so maybe mid/late 3rd is about right.