Chiefs Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect - Page 5

RunKC · 02-09-2025, 08:08 PM

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen

SHOWTIME · 02-10-2025, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Nobody considers #31 as a first rounder.

Nobody.

Dangling #31 for a premier left tackle?

Nobody's taking that trade.

Then package #31 with something else...try and get in the top 20 to get someone. otherwise, it'll be the same thing next year with Mahomes running for his life against teams with athletic defensive fronts. they got away with it in 2022 and 2023 by avoiding those such teams. this year the line got exposed by Houston and Philly.

**dannybcaitlyn** · 02-10-2025, 07:05 AM

I’ve lost all hope on Andy Heck developing young tackles. Best would go out in the FA market (Ronnie Stanley) and get one that’s proven and pray Andy heck doesn’t make them regress like the other two that were brought in. Ah yeah, remember when Detroit lions asked if we wanted to have scrimmage games? Maybe we should do those. we can get true evaluations on our tackles. Morris and Kingsley going up at the likes of FAU and Mike Dana in practice have given us false evaluations. Also demote or better yet fire Heck and bring in Munchak as Oline coach.

FringeNC · 02-10-2025, 07:05 AM

It's not going to be possible to trade up. Move on the plan B.

Chris Meck · 02-10-2025, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

Then package #31 with something else...try and get in the top 20 to get someone. otherwise, it'll be the same thing next year with Mahomes running for his life against teams with athletic defensive fronts. they got away with it in 2022 and 2023 by avoiding those such teams. this year the line got exposed by Houston and Philly.

You're not saying anything everyone doesn't already know.

Everyone wants a good left tackle, I'm just telling you what's real.

What's real is:

Nobody's all that excited about pick#31-or the fact that any package of picks is all second to last in any round.

This draft is not a good draft for left tackles, by all accounts.

This team is about to have a ton of holes everywhere as guys are up for free agency.

There's nobody worth a shit at all at left tackle that are free agents.

So yeah, this is not as simple as SPEND MONEY or PACKAGE PICKS TO MOVE UP.

The guy is not there in either pool.

Sassy Squatch · 02-10-2025, 07:15 AM

Quite frankly the OL coaching has been piss ****ing poor recently. How many games this year has the entire OL just shit all over themselves for large swathes of game time? Off the top of my head there's the Bills, Panthers, Raiders, Chargersx2, and obviously the Eagles. Stack that on top of the games where the LT near singlehandedly ruined the game plan
against the Bengals, Raiders, Broncos and we're up to at least a third of the games roughly.

**RealSNR** · 02-10-2025, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Suamatia and Wanya are not legit shots at a LT man. Less than 10% of successful LT’s are from after the first rd.

Mahomes has had 7 LT’s since Eric Fisher got hurt:

Remmers
OBJ
Smith
Wanya
Kingsley
Thuney
Humphries

This has to stop

Do you want the OL fixed as quickly as next year?

In that case, Suamataia and/or Wanya are what you got. Or overpay for Cam Robinson.

Rookie LTs don't do well, man. I don't know what to tell ya.

We could trade up to #1 overall to take the best LT in the draft and he'd have a ton of struggles that season.

Sassy Squatch · 02-10-2025, 07:20 AM

They've pretty clearly already given up on Morris. Dude isn't even dressing anymore. It's Suamataia or bust for an in house fix or shell out top dollar for mediocrity with Cam Robinson and hope to God he can at least provide a baseline of competence that Mahomes can operate in.

SHOWTIME · 02-10-2025, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

You're not saying anything everyone doesn't already know.

Everyone wants a good left tackle, I'm just telling you what's real.

What's real is:

Nobody's all that excited about pick#31-or the fact that any package of picks is all second to last in any round.

This draft is not a good draft for left tackles, by all accounts.

This team is about to have a ton of holes everywhere as guys are up for free agency.

There's nobody worth a shit at all at left tackle that are free agents.

So yeah, this is not as simple as SPEND MONEY or PACKAGE PICKS TO MOVE UP.

The guy is not there in either pool.

There are plenty of LTs out there that are better than what we have right now. It may not be Jonathan Ogden, but we just need sufficient at this point...this is why Veech gets paid. It's his job to build this roster, not CP.

JPH83 · 02-10-2025, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

You're not saying anything everyone doesn't already know.

Everyone wants a good left tackle, I'm just telling you what's real.

What's real is:

Nobody's all that excited about pick#31-or the fact that any package of picks is all second to last in any round.

This draft is not a good draft for left tackles, by all accounts.

This team is about to have a ton of holes everywhere as guys are up for free agency.

There's nobody worth a shit at all at left tackle that are free agents.

So yeah, this is not as simple as SPEND MONEY or PACKAGE PICKS TO MOVE UP.

The guy is not there in either pool.

Ronnie Stanley? I'd probably take that, fix various other holes and hope to God next year's OT class looks better. On that...does it?...please tell me it does.

SHOWTIME · 02-10-2025, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH83

Ronnie Stanley? I'd probably take that, fix various other holes and hope to God next year's OT class looks better. On that...does it?...please tell me it does.

He's going to get paid. He's not an option for KC, not with $11M cap space.

Iconic · 02-10-2025, 07:27 AM

lane johnson was drafted #4 overall and the eagles fell ass backwards into mailata in the 7th round. what do you expect us to do here with the 31st pick in the ****ing draft?

the only answer is gut guys, fix the cap allocations, and pay up big on ronnie stanley.

thats it. that is literally the only IMMEDIATE solution and it is going to leave you exposed elsewhere as a result. so pick your poison.

Chris Meck · 02-10-2025, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

There are plenty of LTs out there that are better than what we have right now. It may not be Jonathan Ogden, but we just need sufficient at this point...this is why Veech gets paid. It's his job to build this roster, not CP.

Show me your list.

I'll wait.

It's pretty much Ronnie Stanley or bust. And that would need Ronnie to want to leave Baltimore, where he's a good fit and has been his whole career. Move his family.

there's nobody else on the list that is guaranteed to be an upgrade.

Chris Meck · 02-10-2025, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

He's going to get paid. He's not an option for KC, not with $11M cap space.

You keep saying this, but there will be more than $11m cap space.

milkshock · 02-10-2025, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Show me your list.

I'll wait.

It's pretty much Ronnie Stanley or bust. And that would need Ronnie to want to leave Baltimore, where he's a good fit and has been his whole career. Move his family.

there's nobody else on the list that is guaranteed to be an upgrade.

Alaric Jackson

OKchiefs · 02-10-2025, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

You're not saying anything everyone doesn't already know.

Everyone wants a good left tackle, I'm just telling you what's real.

What's real is:

Nobody's all that excited about pick#31-or the fact that any package of picks is all second to last in any round.

This draft is not a good draft for left tackles, by all accounts.

This team is about to have a ton of holes everywhere as guys are up for free agency.

There's nobody worth a shit at all at left tackle that are free agents.

So yeah, this is not as simple as SPEND MONEY or PACKAGE PICKS TO MOVE UP.

The guy is not there in either pool.

None of what you said is true. We’ll see if any actually hit FA, but Stanley, Jackson,‘and even Cam Robinson are all viable upgrades at LT.

Guys like Simmons and Campbell are possibly within trade range with a significant trade up which may be necessary and worth it. Guys like Conerly and Ersery will likely take some development so pair them with Humphries as a short term option.

There are routes to go, doing ****ing half assed ain’t it anymore.

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dannybcaitlyn Supporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Casino cash: $3464000	I’ve lost all hope on Andy Heck developing young tackles. Best would go out in the FA market (Ronnie Stanley) and get one that’s proven and pray Andy heck doesn’t make them regress like the other two that were brought in. Ah yeah, remember when Detroit lions asked if we wanted to have scrimmage games? Maybe we should do those. we can get true evaluations on our tackles. Morris and Kingsley going up at the likes of FAU and Mike Dana in practice have given us false evaluations. Also demote or better yet fire Heck and bring in Munchak as Oline coach.
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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-510345	Quite frankly the OL coaching has been piss ****ing poor recently. How many games this year has the entire OL just shit all over themselves for large swathes of game time? Off the top of my head there's the Bills, Panthers, Raiders, Chargersx2, and obviously the Eagles. Stack that on top of the games where the LT near singlehandedly ruined the game plan against the Bengals, Raiders, Broncos and we're up to at least a third of the games roughly.
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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-510345	They've pretty clearly already given up on Morris. Dude isn't even dressing anymore. It's Suamataia or bust for an in house fix or shell out top dollar for mediocrity with Cam Robinson and hope to God he can at least provide a baseline of competence that Mahomes can operate in.
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Iconic It's just a ride. Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $2430360	lane johnson was drafted #4 overall and the eagles fell ass backwards into mailata in the 7th round. what do you expect us to do here with the 31st pick in the **ing draft? the only answer is gut guys, fix the cap allocations, and pay up big on ronnie stanley. thats it. that is literally the only IMMEDIATE solution and it is going to leave you exposed elsewhere as a result. so pick your poison. __________________ 12·12·11 回 RIP Turd Haley**
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