What is wrong with Mahomes' deep ball?

[TLO]

I was in the camp most of the season in saying that these guys are going to get on the same page, and eventually the deep shots will start hitting.

After today, I'm not sure this is the case.

Is this an offensive line issue? Just not enough time for Mahomes to set and fire an accurate deep ball?

Is it an WR issue? We have 1 burner in Worthy, but the rest of our receivers are slow.

Is it a Mahomes issue?

Someone smarter than me tell me what's going on.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

This post rocks. It’s everything I’ve been thinking but haven’t been able to get out in the way you just did.

It really felt like today he decided, **** it, IDC what the circumstances suggest, I’m going to hit on some deep throws. At a minimum I’m going to at least look for them as primary reads often.

So many of these regular season games for the offense do have a practice-y feel to them.

But if they start rolling in the playoffs it’s gonna be because they just locked the **** in and started playing free.

Yeah, was it the Bills game where they had the all-Worthy touchdown drive, and I think he got like 1 target the rest of the game... and that happened a bit today, too, even though he had a few other targets the rest of the game.

They did that DHop slant for a touchdown in his first or second game and have very rarely gone back to it, even though you really have to assume that's going to be a go-to in the postseason.

We put hours of thought into trustring receivers, trusting the line, learning the playbook, etc... and then you watch Amari Cooper make an immediate impact while Allen slings it around.

It shouldn't look THIS difficult for the best quarterback in the league, all things considered.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

It shouldn't look THIS difficult for the best quarterback in the league, all things considered.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yeah, was it the Bills game where they had the all-Worthy touchdown drive, and I think he got like 1 target the rest of the game... and that happened a bit today, too, even though he had a few other targets the rest of the game.

They did that DHop slant for a touchdown in his first or second game and have very rarely gone back to it, even though you really have to assume that's going to be a go-to in the postseason.

We put hours of thought into trustring receivers, trusting the line, learning the playbook, etc... and then you watch Amari Cooper make an immediate impact while Allen slings it around.

It shouldn't look THIS difficult for the best quarterback in the league, all things considered.

They honestly do look like playing offense is hard, Mahomes went from being the ****ing Boogeyman against the blitz to now it's 50/50 if the ball even comes out.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Kman34

He threw a great deep ball last year. The WRs refused to catch them..

So what is your theory that he cant throw A deep ball this year?

[Rasputin]

I think it gets fixed with Hollywood Brown coming back to play.


Everything else will open up and it will be more efficient offense. The deep ball is just a luxury.

[Valiant]

He has never been great. I know there was some wind and moisture out there it seems today. I am going to chalk up the drips and being so off to that.

He needs to learn some touch and let wr run to the ball though.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah I don’t know if it’s the turnovers the last few years or what

Wr drops like Worthy's bumbling on " easy" receptions. Kelce has regressed in this area too, makes spectacular grabs then doesn't catch it and kills the drive.

[UChieffyBugger]

The Hopkins throw today was good imo. And if you think back to the playoffs he had that monumental deep pass to MVS to win the game and in the superbowl that massive throw to Hardman to get us into the ten.

Imo Pat is up and down with his deep passes. Sometimes it's his fault, other times it's not. MVS dropped that one against the Eagles last season too.

This year the Worthy bomb vs The Chargers was also good. It would be interesting to see how they would be if he had a good line around him.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by Mecca

They honestly do look like playing offense is hard, Mahomes went from being the ****ing Boogeyman against the blitz to now it's 50/50 if the ball even comes out.

I dont believe for a second that Mahomes has forgot how to throw the football...that air-mailed TD pass to Kelce in the Donks game was..."special". I've never seen him miss a play like that...sure kept the game close though...the "fan duel" special.

It was bad enough for me to start thinking it might have been deliberate....the assassin version of Mahomes has been MIA. It's felt off almost all season...like he's just doing the bare minimum to win games...because he IS that good.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Wr drops like Worthy's bumbling on " easy" receptions. Kelce has regressed in this area too, makes spectacular grabs then doesn't catch it and kills the drive.

There is MAYBE 2-3 throws all season where it was worthy's fault they didn't connect. That leaves at least 10-12 deep balls that sucked from Mahomes. That doesn't mean Mahomes sucks now, just that Mahomes needs more practice in live games to hit that long ball.

[RunKC]

Gonna be honest here and it sounds weird but it’s true watching the tape: he’s thinking way too much.

He turned the ball over too much early and you can tell he’s purposefully not trying to put the ball in harms way. The overthrows today, especially to Worthy in the endzone, looked like a purposeful overthrow to avoid risk.

Others like the disastrous Worthy overthrow out of bounds vs Denver was due to the OL. His feet were a mess and he sped everything up. Same thing on the miss in SF.

He’s thinking far too much. And he’s also meshing with new players on the fly and it’s tough developing chemistry with a bad OL. And Kelce, Watson and Hopkins are not man-beaters. They can’t get open the way a QB needs guys to get open.

It’s a constant wheel of messiness making the QB think too much.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Those pressure percentages just don’t match up with the eye test.

On many of those today, it’s him scrambling up into pressure in the pocket.

Thuney was as solid of LT play as we’ve had all year. He might have to stay out there, IDK.

At some point if this team is going to get it done, Patrick’s gotta snap out of this mental funk and execute the offense. He’s got way too much going on between the ears right now and it’s making issues around him look even bigger.

He has to anticipate and let the ball rip. Stop trying to be so perfect and aim these throws. That’s what it looks like to me.

Right you are

[crayzkirk]

I hate to say the dreaded word... Yips... Patrick has the yips. When he is thinking about what he is doing instead of reacting to the play, it becomes mechanical and forced. It's like a golfer standing over a chip shot; the practice swing is smooth and when the actual shot occurs, the real swing is short and choppy. I believe he will get out of it.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah I don’t know if it’s the turnovers the last few years or what

Skyy Moore

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

There is MAYBE 2-3 throws all season where it was worthy's fault they didn't connect. That leaves at least 10-12 deep balls that sucked from Mahomes. That doesn't mean Mahomes sucks now, just that Mahomes needs more practice in live games to hit that long ball.

LOL, yep it's all Mahomes fault because Worthy knows all the route concepts with great hands l coupled with no drops in bounds/sarcasm.