Has Reid fixed what wasn’t broken?

[mr. tegu]

Great win today. But the offense and situational manage to continues to not be good.

What’s most troubling to me is the dynamics of the offense have been pretty much reduced to a more normal level. Mahomes has really reduced his willingness lately to throw down field, especially on third down. Without breaking everything down I can’t give numbers but I think we all see Mahomes being too willing to check it down and not throw beyond the sticks on third downs given the chance. The third down check down late to Hill comes to mind. He had two options wide open right in his field of vision but didn’t go there. Sometimes he has good pockets and sometimes not, but that was the case all last season too. We haven’t protected him well with any consistent so I don’t view that as the main culprit.

So what’s the issue? Reid encouraging him to “take what the defense gives you” too much? Reid calling plays that encourage short plays too much? Mahomes not reading the field correctly? Mahomes bailing from clean pockets too often?

[O.city]

When the interior of your OL is just getting demolished, man, I don't know what else you can do. Brady, Manning, Brees have all looked extremely mortal when their guards and centers are getting destroyed.

You've just gotta fix that.

Now, the issue with the thing yesterday, was that once you got to 23-7 against that current Pats setup, you just go into dink and dunk mode (especially with your QB hurting) and try to make the Pats go long fields to score. You can't have a blocked punt and a fumble.

That's the issues yesterday. Kelce needs to figure out that running backwards to the sideline shit isn't gonna work, catch it and get north and south and get on the ground. Go max protect and don't get a ****ing punt blocked.

The Chiefs offense and special teams did everything they could to give that one up.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

When the interior of your OL is just getting demolished, man, I don't know what else you can do. Brady, Manning, Brees have all looked extremely mortal when their guards and centers are getting destroyed.

You've just gotta fix that.

Now, the issue with the thing yesterday, was that once you got to 23-7 against that current Pats setup, you just go into dink and dunk mode (especially with your QB hurting) and try to make the Pats go long fields to score. You can't have a blocked punt and a fumble.

That's the issues yesterday. Kelce needs to figure out that running backwards to the sideline shit isn't gonna work, catch it and get north and south and get on the ground. Go max protect and don't get a ****ing punt blocked.

The Chiefs offense and special teams did everything they could to give that one up.

Kelce is maybe running into the football mortality problems that McCoy is.

4 year ago Kelce can probably get that ball, get around a defender and drag another one forward for another 4-5 yards. He can do the kind of thing that Kittle did yesterday.

But this Kelce is a technician as much as anything. He's a brilliant route-runner who knows where he needs to be and can use his size to make things happen. He's NOT an explosive athlete at this point, especially not at this point of the season (12 games on his legs and cold weather).

He kinda needs to understand that a little bit more. McCoy gets into trouble because he tries to do things he used to be able to do and his body betrays him. Well that Kelce play was a lot like that - Trav, buddy, you're not gonna be able to do what you were trying to do there anymore man. Get your first down, hammer the guy in front of you and see if you can't push forward for another yard or two.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Kelce is maybe running into the football mortality problems that McCoy is.

4 year ago Kelce can probably get that ball, get around a defender and drag another one forward for another 4-5 yards. He can do the kind of thing that Kittle did yesterday.

But this Kelce is a technician as much as anything. He's a brilliant route-runner who knows where he needs to be and can use his size to make things happen. He's NOT an explosive athlete at this point, especially not at this point of the season (12 games on his legs and cold weather).

He kinda needs to understand that a little bit more. McCoy gets into trouble because he tries to do things he used to be able to do and his body betrays him. Well that Kelce play was a lot like that - Trav, buddy, you're not gonna be able to do what you were trying to do there anymore man. Get your first down, hammer the guy in front of you and see if you can't push forward for another yard or two.

My dad calls it Tyreekitis. They see him do it, it works so they think "shit, I can do that".

Nah, you can't. Just make the catch, get north and south and get what you can. I think it's time to invest in a real back up TE and sadly, I think they kinda miss Harris.

I've even more so come to the realization that you are always going to have needs and holes on a team, you just have to keep drafting the best player you can and don't worry about position stuff. YOu just don't know when or where you're gonna need stuff year to year.

[FloridaMan88]

The reasons for the struggles on offense (in no specific order):

1) Mahomes hasn't been 100% healthy for most of the season.
2) The offense as an entire unit has rarely been 100% healthy for most of this season.
3) The offensive line has been bad. Even Fisher/Schwartz were having issues yesterday.
4) The running game has been unreliable.
5) Pass catching options not named Tyreek or Kelce have been unreliable.
6) Too many self-inflicted errors (penalties, fumbles, etc.)
7) The Chiefs have faced some really good opposing defenses this year (Faketriots #1 ranked defense, Chargers #4 ranked defense, Ravens #6 ranked defense, Denver #11 ranked defense, etc.)

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The reasons for the struggles on offense (in no specific order):

1) Mahomes hasn't been 100% healthy for most of the season.
2) The offense as an entire unit has rarely been 100% healthy for most of this season.
3) The offensive line has been bad. Even Fisher/Schwartz were having issues yesterday.
4) The running game has been unreliable.
5) Pass catching options not named Tyreek or Kelce have been unreliable.
6) Too many self-inflicted errors (penalties, fumbles, etc.)
7) The Chiefs have faced some really good opposing defenses this year (Faketriots #1 ranked defense, Chargers #4 ranked defense, Ravens #6 ranked defense, Denver #11 ranked defense, etc.)

while i don't disagree with your list, what are the root causes? Let's see

1) because Offensive line
2)especially the offensive line
3)yep. Offensive line
4)because offensive line is shite.
5)true.
6)lots on the offensive line.
7)true.

Just saying.

[Chief Northman]

Trade up for Biadasz.

Make Scherff your free agent splash.

Get a RB or LB in round 2. Profit.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

while i don't disagree with your list, what are the root causes? Let's see

1) because Offensive line
2)especially the offensive line
3)yep. Offensive line
4)because offensive line is shite.
5)true.
6)lots on the offensive line.
7)true.

Just saying.

Mahomes has his fair share of missed reads as well. Missed two huge plays last night, one to Tyreek wide open post in the endzone and Kelce on a double move.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

Mahomes has his fair share of missed reads as well. Missed two huge plays last night, one to Tyreek wide open post in the endzone and Kelce on a double move.

I think his hand was bothering his ability to throw with velocity.

Also, I think he's a bit skittish because OFFENSIVE LINE IS SHITE.

[MahiMike]

I was pondering about the OL during my walk today and came up with this:

We seem to have an abundance of guys on the DL rotation so why not plug one of those guys into the OL? I'm thinking khalen saunders at guard...

Flame away.