Chiefs Who should be re-signed? - Page 5

**BossChief** · 10-30-2019, 09:50 AM

We have a huge list of players set to be UFA after this season. I know it’s only the halfway point, but it’s not too early to start the conversation.

We’re slated to have 24m in estimated cap space according to overthecap and currently have around 23m to rollover from this season. So, unless I’m way off (which is possible, I’m just adding up our current cap space and next years estimated taken from OTC), will have close to 47m in space before doing anything with Sammy Watkins. If we choose to cut Watkins, that adds another 14m in cap space.

Chad Henne
Xavier Williams
Lesean McCoy
Darron Lee
Jordan Lucas
Morris Claiborne
Bashaud Breeland
Emmanuel Ogbah
Chris Jones
Reggie Ragland
Matt Moore
Kendall Fuller
Anthony Sherman
Stefan Wisnewski

So far, Ogbah, Jones, Breeland and Ragland have probably all earned reasonable FA deals unless Veach thinks upgrades can be had at similar cost.

DJ's left nut · 10-30-2019, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Dylan Mosses was a top ranked ILB for the 2020 draft but tore his ACL a couple months ago. He could be a nice value for us in the draft since he should fall. He should be ready for training camp.

Speaking of, it’s Garrett Bradbury week! I poked fun at DJLN for wanting him so early, but I might join that bandwagon next Spring.

I’ve watched Wisconsin OL Tyler Biadasz. He’s next years Bradbury. After what I’ve seen from Pat limping around? Yeah I wouldn’t mind taking that beast with our first rd pick.

Count me in DJ

Y'know, my first impression was "Maybe Moses falls..."

Then I remembered that Jeffrey Simmons tore an ACL in February and still got drafted in the first round.

Moses will absolutely be on my radar but he was just so highly regarded that, even with the Alabama MLB stigma, I think he'll go in the top 20.

Mecca · 10-30-2019, 11:28 AM

I completely forgot about this but unless a new CBA is agreed upon there will be no June 1 cuts before next season.

ILChief · 10-30-2019, 11:55 AM

Ragland

Pitt Gorilla · 10-30-2019, 12:03 PM

I'd love to hear Veach explain the Hitchens signing. I mean, it NEVER made any sense. Even if Frank Clark never looks elite, I get the idea. I get Honey Badger. Hitchens (and his deal) were always head scratchers.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-30-2019, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Hardman can't run routes, fellas.

There is no way on Gods green earth they're gonna run with a 2-3-4 of Hardman, Pringle and Kemp next season. That's just a disaster waiting to happen.

Hardman's getting a lot of love right now because you can flex him into space and find ways to make him useful, but that's the only real way to use him. Just assuming he's going to suddenly become a worthwhile route runner OR become a savvy enough player to pick up the X routes as well as Watkins has is a damn iffy proposition.

Tyreek Hill showed innate WR skills from the moment he was sent out into the pattern. Hardman, OTOH, still looks like a fast guy playing football more than he looks like a wide receiver to me. He has value, but it's important not to peter principle him here and ask more of him than he can realistically provide. At that point, you're eliminating the value he DOES provide.

I'm not sure Chief Fan will ever truly understand the value of a guy like Hill.

ChiefBlueCFC · 10-30-2019, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Terez says Chiefs will re sign Jones....... ****

You don't want the Chiefs to have one of the most dominant defensive lineman in football? I mean, really?

Pitt Gorilla · 10-30-2019, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

Ragland

It's crazy how much the scheme switch and coaching has impacted Ragland's value. I think everyone (including me) was ready to see him gone. Now, he's looking pretty damn good.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! · 10-30-2019, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC

You don't want the Chiefs to have one of the most dominant defensive lineman in football? I mean, really?

I want money available to use on LBs and DBs. With Jones and Mahomes signed we can’t really do anything

Iconic · 10-30-2019, 12:31 PM

Ragland, Breeland, Ogbah, and McCoy once we release Damien next season.

DrRyan · 10-30-2019, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Frank Clark and Anthony Hitchens account for 35 million dollars of our cap space next year...

Ok, that covers that bad news...

So maddening that the Chiefs seem wholly incapable to getting someone to manage the cap. How can you be in cap hell perpetuity?

pugsnotdrugs19 · 10-30-2019, 01:41 PM

I’m really beginning to wonder if ILB isn’t the most valuable defensive commodity you can have in today’s game. An elite one, that is.

They play such a big role in the run and pass game that it is tough to argue. Its why losing Shazier was so critical to Pittsburgh (and why they went BIG to replace him).

If there was that type of LBer in next year’s draft, I’d jump all over it.

Megatron96 · 10-30-2019, 02:12 PM

Think we just re-signed a punter . . . Fox or something from the Ravens PS?

oldman · 10-30-2019, 02:29 PM

I think Ogbah, Sherman, and Breeland have earned an extension. Flip a coin between Henne and Moore if you think they can't be replaced. I don't know what to think of Ragland, maybe pine time got his attention. I certainly wouldn't break the bank for him. Lucas, Lee, and Claiborne can probably be had on the cheap, so keep them. Which brings us to Jones. Yes, he's a force on interior rush, but he just seems to disappear on the run. If he'll take less than the projected $18-20M, I'd say keep him.

**loochy** · 10-30-2019, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Think we just re-signed a punter . . . Fox or something from the Ravens PS?

That reminds me....when is Colquitt up?

Edit: never mind, cutting him has already been covered in this thread

Wilson8 · 10-30-2019, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Think we just re-signed a punter . . . Fox or something from the Ravens PS?

Dustin Colquitt injured his quad in the Green Bay game and there is a chance that he may not be able to play this week.

Chiefs signed punter Jack Fox (played for Chiefs during preseason) to their practice squad and could move him to 53 man roster if Dustin can't go.

Chiefs also released WR Cody Thompson to make room for Fox on practice squad.

10-30-2019, 09:50 AM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1555912	Who should be re-signed? We have a huge list of players set to be UFA after this season. I know it’s only the halfway point, but it’s not too early to start the conversation. We’re slated to have 24m in estimated cap space according to overthecap and currently have around 23m to rollover from this season. So, unless I’m way off (which is possible, I’m just adding up our current cap space and next years estimated taken from OTC), will have close to 47m in space before doing anything with Sammy Watkins. If we choose to cut Watkins, that adds another 14m in cap space. Chad Henne Xavier Williams Lesean McCoy Darron Lee Jordan Lucas Morris Claiborne Bashaud Breeland Emmanuel Ogbah Chris Jones Reggie Ragland Matt Moore Kendall Fuller Anthony Sherman Stefan Wisnewski So far, Ogbah, Jones, Breeland and Ragland have probably all earned reasonable FA deals unless Veach thinks upgrades can be had at similar cost.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-502950	I completely forgot about this but unless a new CBA is agreed upon there will be no June 1 cuts before next season.
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Pitt Gorilla Banned! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201 Casino cash: $50194	I'd love to hear Veach explain the Hitchens signing. I mean, it NEVER made any sense. Even if Frank Clark never looks elite, I get the idea. I get Honey Badger. Hitchens (and his deal) were always head scratchers. __________________ Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
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Iconic It's just a ride. Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $1730360	Ragland, Breeland, Ogbah, and McCoy once we release Damien next season. __________________ 12·12·11 回 RIP Turd Haley
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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6629447	I’m really beginning to wonder if ILB isn’t the most valuable defensive commodity you can have in today’s game. An elite one, that is. They play such a big role in the run and pass game that it is tough to argue. Its why losing Shazier was so critical to Pittsburgh (and why they went BIG to replace him). If there was that type of LBer in next year’s draft, I’d jump all over it.
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Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: North Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-1739600	Think we just re-signed a punter . . . Fox or something from the Ravens PS?
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10-30-2019, 02:29 PM	#73
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	I think Ogbah, Sherman, and Breeland have earned an extension. Flip a coin between Henne and Moore if you think they can't be replaced. I don't know what to think of Ragland, maybe pine time got his attention. I certainly wouldn't break the bank for him. Lucas, Lee, and Claiborne can probably be had on the cheap, so keep them. Which brings us to Jones. Yes, he's a force on interior rush, but he just seems to disappear on the run. If he'll take less than the projected $18-20M, I'd say keep him.
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