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Old 01-30-2014, 11:11 AM  
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Do you take Manziel at 23?
What if he falls?

A controversial, largely-thought-to-be-a-slam-dunk QB has dropped from time to time in the NFL Draft.

He could be Brady Quinn if we take him at 23, or he could be Aaron Rodgers.

Keep in mind, you've also likely got these candidates on the board as well:

WR Lee
WR Robinson
WR Benjamin
TE Seferian-Jenkins
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OT Richardson
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Old 02-21-2014, 08:14 PM   #61
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No.

We have Bray.


I don't even think Tyler Bray's mom would take him over Manziel.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:15 PM   #62
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I don't even think Tyler Bray's mom would take him over Manziel.
Why not? Manziel is everything that Andy Reid doesn't want in a qb. Hes not safe with the ball, or his body, hes an arrogant prick. He could just bring back Michael Vick if he wanted that.

Now, to the topic at hand. Manziel is going no lower than 8th to the Vikings, although my bet is he goes to Oakland at 5.

Unfortunately, for Browns, and Chiefs fans, with the added weight that Teddy put on, he is almost a lock in my opinion to go to the Texans. He is going to be everything that the Texans want.

And, where the Chiefs fit in. Teddy Bridgewater is the exact example of what Andy Reid wants in a qb, he just happened to come out one year too late.

The Chiefs need play makers. They are fine at qb.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:34 PM   #63
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While Bridgewater is almost a lock to go to the Texans, Jadeveon Clowney is a 100% lock to go to the Texans.

No way in hell that they pass up Clowney.

None.

Clowney is going to destroy the Combine and the Texan fans will be absolutely rabid for a Watt/Clowney bookend pass rush.

You pass on Clowney for Bridgewater and you better start looking over your shoulder for an angry mob carrying buckets of tar, bags of feathers and a very big rail.

No GM, and I mean no GM is going to pass up Clowney for a guy who may or may not even beat out your second string QB.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:41 PM   #64
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Apparently, if the draft were today, they'd take Bortles (te Texans).
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:44 PM   #65
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While Bridgewater is almost a lock to go to the Texans, Jadeveon Clowney is a 100% lock to go to the Texans.

No way in hell that they pass up Clowney.

None.

Clowney is going to destroy the Combine and the Texan fans will be absolutely rabid for a Watt/Clowney bookend pass rush.

You pass on Clowney for Bridgewater and you better start looking over your shoulder for an angry mob carrying buckets of tar, bags of feathers and a very big rail.

No GM, and I mean no GM is going to pass up Clowney for a guy who may or may not even beat out your second string QB.
If I were their GM, I would take Clowney as well. But the problem is, are you prepared to sink that much money into those two players? If Clowney pans out, judging from deals for truly elite pass rushers/defenders in recent history, are you prepared to pay two DE's 100 mil each for their next pay checks? I would do it, but that would mean having to hit on almost every draft pick in order to make up for the fact that you wouldn't be able to pay a lot of your other good-great players.

They would make it a lot easier on your defensive coordinator though.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:57 PM   #66
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If I were their GM, I would take Clowney as well. But the problem is, are you prepared to sink that much money into those two players? If Clowney pans out, judging from deals for truly elite pass rushers/defenders in recent history, are you prepared to pay two DE's 100 mil each for their next pay checks? I would do it, but that would mean having to hit on almost every draft pick in order to make up for the fact that you wouldn't be able to pay a lot of your other good-great players.

They would make it a lot easier on your defensive coordinator though.
It would make it easier on both Clowney, who was basically triple teamed the entire 2013 season, and Watt, who gets double teamed nearly every snap.

They'd murder fools.

And no GM is going to base their legacy on being the guy who passed on Clowney.

Unless the Texans get offered an absolute metric shit ton of picks, there is no way they are not picking Jadeveon.
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:06 PM   #67
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Why not? Manziel is everything that Andy Reid doesn't want in a qb. Hes not safe with the ball, or his body, hes an arrogant prick. He could just bring back Michael Vick if he wanted that.
You're unfamiliar with Bray?
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:17 PM   #68
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I would laugh my ass off if they pick Clowney number one.
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:44 AM   #69
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Does Clowney get them a Super Bowl? Because that's the surest way to fill the stadium.

The 2nd surest way is to draft Manziel.

If Texans ownership wants to fill the stadium, they'll take Manziel and take their chances with what happens on the field.
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If he truly wanted to be the #1 pick he would compete and throw with all the other QB's. This is a huge red flag. Probably figures it would drop him out of the first round??
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Old 02-22-2014, 10:55 AM   #71
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If Manziel is available at 23 and we take a guard I think that will be it for me. Got enough other stuff to work on.
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The Chiefs have the starting QB position locked up for at least the next 5-7 years. Alex Smith is a top 10 guy and franchise QB.
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If Manziel is available at 23 and we take a guard I think that will be it for me. Got enough other stuff to work on.
If Manziel makes it past the Cardinals at 20 I would think Manziel would be a good reason for someone to want to trade up from the top of the 2cd. I just can't see him getting passed on by all those teams at the top of the 1st that need a QB but if he did I would think they would be willing to spend a couple of picks to try and get him. One of those teams might even be the Browns.
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