Chiefs Why are so many Chiefs fans against drafting a 1st round QB? - Page 5

Deberg_1990 · 02-04-2009, 08:31 PM

What is it??

Did Steve Fuller and Todd Blackledge ruin your childhood??

Let it go people. Its time....

**DeezNutz** · 02-04-2009, 10:38 PM

McCoy is 165 lbs. Dripping wet.

ChiefsCountry · 02-04-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

This. The real question is why do some Chiefs fans believe that Stafford (who will be gone) or Sanchez are the franchise QB?

Why do I believe Stafford and Sanchez are franchise guys. I will tell you why. I was not on the Stafford bandwagon at all to start the year. His sophomore year did not impress me at all. I wanted Bradford instead. It was after the 3rd game of the season against South Carolina, I made a vow to watch him and see if my opinion would change. It did. I watched every single stinking Georgia Bulldog game from then on out. He was impressive. He has the arm, the size, the leadership skills. Georgia was also very young up front and at receiver. Stafford led that team. It was his team. Yes Florida and Alabama beat them bad, but it was that Bama game where I really liked him. They were done and out and led a respectful comeback against the Tide. Stafford just reminds me of how Elway used to play.

Now to Sanchez, most of us thought he wouldnt come out but he was the one everybody had pegged for the top guy in 2010. I watched a ton of USC games mainly to look at their defense guys which is where that team was stacked not offense. I saw a guy who was the leader of that team. USC's line wasnt very good. He got nailed in the grill alot, but his biggest plays were when he was flushed from the pocket and made a strike. He has the arm, the swagger, the smarts you want from a franchise QB. Troy Aikman is who he reminds me of.

boogblaster · 02-04-2009, 10:39 PM

If one is there take him ... if not DE-OL-LB-etc all need help ...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-04-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by unothadeal

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You currently suck. You might be good sometime in the future:
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**Rain Man** · 02-04-2009, 10:40 PM

Are there seriously people who say that we shouldn't draft a quarterback, aside from some people who might like Thigpen?

I think some folks have created a myth that others don't want a quarterback just because they didn't want to tank games this season. I doubt that there are many people at all who don't see the value of a quarterback.

Sanka · 02-04-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Uh, McCoy plays in the spread.

Sanchez and Stafford play in Pro-Style offenses.

McCoy will have a HUGE learning curve and will need to learn how to effectively play under center.

Furthermore, please explain how Texas, year in and year out, is in the top 5 of recruiting, but their receivers aren't as good as those at Georgia & USC.

That doesn't make any sense.

I'm and idiot leave me alone. But I'd still rather have McCoy over Sanchez or Stafford.

1. McCoy
2. Stafford
3. Sanchez

**DeezNutz** · 02-04-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Are there seriously people who say that we shouldn't draft a quarterback, aside from some people who might like Thigpen?

I think some folks have created a myth that others don't want a quarterback just because they didn't want to tank games this season. I doubt that there are many people at all who don't see the value of a quarterback.

They're called "No QB in round 1 unless he's a 'lock'" folks. But they're all for a QB in rounds 4-7.

Good luck finding that "lock."

ChiefsCountry · 02-04-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think you missed his point.

Never pass on a potential franchise QB.

That really wasnt my point. My point is to take the talent where its the highest value ie WR in 07, LT in 08, QB in 09, Defense in 10.

Sanka · 02-04-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

McCoy is 165 lbs. Dripping wet.

McCoy is listed at 6'3 215!

**DeezNutz** · 02-04-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanka

McCoy is listed at 6'3 215!

Ok. So I am guilty of hyperbole.

175.

Croyle 2.0.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-04-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

That really wasnt my point. My point is to take the talent where its the highest value ie WR in 07, LT in 08, QB in 09, Defense in 10.

Oops

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-04-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanka

I'm and idiot leave me alone. But I'd still rather have McCoy over Sanchez or Stafford.

1. McCoy
2. Stafford
3. Sanchez

Help....I've....fallen.....and.....can't..............................................uh............ ..............

Cormac · 02-04-2009, 10:57 PM

Without reading all the posts, and in no particular order:

1) disbelief that this organisation can actually draft the right one
2) we have many holes to fill
3) we have an impatient fan-base that is at its wit's end, and most QBs take a year (or two or three) to develop. Many couldn't handle that.
4) Matt Ryan was in last year's draft
5) Todd Blackledge
6) We had THE WORST PASS RUSH IN NFL HISTORY in 2008. Don't we need a DE?
7) Is any of the QBs in this year's draft actually worthy of the 3rd overall pick?
8) Many early 1st round QBs are colossal busts (Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Alex Smith, David Klingler, Andre Ware, our very own Todd Blackledge etc.). Are we not safer picking a DE or other position of need?
9) Picking the wrong QB can really set the franchise back, more than a bad pick at other positions
10) Todd Blackledge
11) See #1

Personally I'm just looking forward to seeing who we pick, and what position. We have a new GM with a track record of success. I'm not going to second guess him until he proves he deserves it. Be it Sanchez, Stafford, Orakpo, whoever, let's hope we're beginning to return to being competitive.

**Rain Man** · 02-04-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanka

McCoy is listed at 6'3 215!

Maybe he was dripping in gravy.

**RealSNR** · 02-04-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think you missed his point.

Never pass on a potential franchise QB.

What I got from his post was that Sanchez and Stafford weren't potential franchise QB material.

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Cormac Haley sceptic.... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: waiting it out....... Casino cash: $10004900	Without reading all the posts, and in no particular order: 1) disbelief that this organisation can actually draft the right one 2) we have many holes to fill 3) we have an impatient fan-base that is at its wit's end, and most QBs take a year (or two or three) to develop. Many couldn't handle that. 4) Matt Ryan was in last year's draft 5) Todd Blackledge 6) We had THE WORST PASS RUSH IN NFL HISTORY in 2008. Don't we need a DE? 7) Is any of the QBs in this year's draft actually worthy of the 3rd overall pick? 8) Many early 1st round QBs are colossal busts (Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Alex Smith, David Klingler, Andre Ware, our very own Todd Blackledge etc.). Are we not safer picking a DE or other position of need? 9) Picking the wrong QB can really set the franchise back, more than a bad pick at other positions 10) Todd Blackledge 11) See #1 Personally I'm just looking forward to seeing who we pick, and what position. We have a new GM with a track record of success. I'm not going to second guess him until he proves he deserves it. Be it Sanchez, Stafford, Orakpo, whoever, let's hope we're beginning to return to being competitive.
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