Updated College Polls!

[DaKCMan AP]

BCS
1. Alabama .981
2. Texas Tech .972
3. Texas .880
4. Florida .864
5. Oklahoma .844
6. USC .790
7. Utah .769
8. Penn State .684
9. Boise State .678
10. Georgia .616
11. ohio state
12. Missouri
13. Oklahoma State
14. Ball State
15. Michigan state
16. North Carolina
17. BYU
18. TCU
19. Florida State
20. LSU
21. Pittsburgh
22. Cincinnati
23. Tulsa
24. Wake Forest
25. South Carolina

Harris Poll
1. Alabama (75)
2. Texas Tech (38)
3. Florida (1)
4. Texas
5. Oklahoma
6. USC
7. Penn State
8. Utah
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
11. Missouri
12. Georgia
13. Oklahoma State
14. BYU
15. Ball State
16. Michigan State
17. North Carolina
18. TCU
19. LSU
20. Florida State
21. Pittsburgh
22. Tulsa
23. Cincinnati
24. South Carolina
25. California

Coaches Poll
1. Alabama (44)
2. Texas Tech (17)
3. Florida
4. Oklahoma
5. Texas
6. Southern California
7. Utah
8. Penn State
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
11. Missouri
12. Georgia
13. Oklahoma State
14. Brigham Young
15. Michigan State
16. Ball State
17. North Carolina
18. TCU
19. Florida State
20. LSU
21. Pittsburgh
22. Cincinnati
23. South Carolina
24. Tulsa
25. Oregon State

AP Poll
1. Alabama (44)
2. Texas Tech (21)
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. Oklahoma
6. Southern California
7. Penn State
8. Utah
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
11. Oklahoma State
12. Missouri
13. Georgia
14. Ball state
15. TCU
16. BYU
17. North Carolina
18. Michigan State
19. LSU
20. Florida State
21. Pittsburgh
22. Cincinnati
23. Oregon St.
24. South Carolina
25. Tulsa

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by frazod

I take solace in our win over you - not backing into a game we didn't deserve because we didn't play anybody (else).

But whatever makes your clit throb, Nancy. Enjoy.

I'll laugh if KU actually beats MU in 2 weeks. And the funny thing is, with MU's defense, it's a significant possibility.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I'll laugh if KU actually beats MU in 2 weeks. And the funny thing is, with MU's defense, it's a significant possibility.

Keep squawking, little imaginary birdie - just like last year.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

No, it was MU fans that held their team to such high standards this year. Many of them expected a Big 12 title and a NC shot. They failed. Miserably.

How have we failed miserably? We lost to 2 outstanding teams and are ranked 12th in the country. It's been a disappointing season, but it's still been a great season. For a KU fan to dog on MU for being ranked 12th in the country is laughable.

It must be nice not to have standards. Maybe I'll go make fun of Tom Brady for not winning the Superbowl last year. What a failure that guy is.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

How can KU lose to MU and finish behind MU in the polls last year, yet their fans simultaneously claim that last season's success will carry them through 5 years of mediocrity and rip MU as being a fraud this season. Talk about trying to have it both ways, doesn't MU's season last year (which was superior to KU's season, hence the ranking) give MU a 5 year pass as well?

Meanwhile, MU is a top 12 team in the country and looks to be the class of the Big 12 North for the foreseeable future. Kansas is the same middle-of-the-road program that they have always been, and there's no reason to believe that anything better is in store.

You should probably talk to Mizzou fans about being quick to pull the trigger on calling a team a fraud. If Kansas wins the Orange Bowl and losses by a possession to a team that was apparently vastly superior to them, and they're still called frauds.... of course when Mizzou losses to OSU at home and then gets their asses handed to them by Texas, Kansas fans are going to say the same thing.

The difference is that before last season, no one thought Kansas or Mizzou would do anything. Before this season, Kansas fans knew Kansas would take a step back and (hopefully) win about 8 games, while Mizzou fans were hoping to get a piece of the NC spotlight.

I heard crap from a Mizzou grad friend for a year about how Mizzou was going undefeated this year, while hearing crap about how Kansas was going to be 'exposed' by OU... which didn't make sense since MU couldn't beat OU last year, but whatever. Of course Mizzou is going to be called a fraud from those who took the same crap and are still taking crap about Kansas.


The class of the B12 North and middle of the road? For starters, before Mangino they weren't close to the middle of the road. And if the Jayhawks are complete frauds, then Mizzou isn't far behind... they haven't been nearly as successful when compared to Kansas as some people want to believe.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

How does one win against a GA team that is ranked 10th (and barely escaped falling to around 20th by rallying to beat Kentucky) count as better than Texas's wins against the number 11 and 12 teams in the country? How can you possibly defend that position?

You didn't even address their loss. Is a loss at home to a crappy Mississippi team somehow better than a last second loss on the road to the number 2 team in the country?

We weren't talking about losses. You stated that Florida doesn't have a single victory over a top-notch team (while they pounded #10 Georgia and #20 LSU) while in the same breath you count Missouri and Ok State as quality wins for Texas. Double standard?

You talk about Georgia struggling at Kentucky. Mizzou struggled at Baylor. Ok State's best victory is over Mizzou who doesn't have any quality victories. Georgia beat LSU who doesn't have any quality victories. A blowout victory over #10 Georgia counts more than a sound victory over #12 Mizzou or a slim win over #13 Ok State.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

How have we failed miserably? We lost to 2 outstanding teams and are ranked 12th in the country. It's been a disappointing season, but it's still been a great season. For a KU fan to dog on MU for being ranked 12th in the country is laughable.

They failed in their GOAL miserably. Everybody who follows that team knows it.

It must be nice not to have standards. Maybe I'll go make fun of Tom Brady for not winning the Superbowl last year. What a failure that guy is.

I'll tell you what is nice. Our Orange Bowl Victory.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I'll laugh if KU actually beats MU in 2 weeks. And the funny thing is, with MU's defense, it's a significant possibility.

It's a significant possibility? Really? You haven't even scrubbed the Nebraska spooge out of your asses, and you've already deluded yourselves into thinking that you have a shot at beating one of the best teams in the country. That's an accomplishment.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

How have we failed miserably? We lost to 2 outstanding teams and are ranked 12th in the country. It's been a disappointing season, but it's still been a great season. For a KU fan to dog on MU for being ranked 12th in the country is laughable.

It must be nice not to have standards. Maybe I'll go make fun of Tom Brady for not winning the Superbowl last year. What a failure that guy is.

So, when Mizzou has NC aspirations and ends up being the South's bitch, it's not a big deal (I certainly don't think it's a big deal... still a good season). Yet, when Kansas wins the Orange Bowl and loses to the apparent superior Mizzou by 8, they're complete frauds.

Uh-huh.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I heard crap from a Mizzou grad friend for a year about how Mizzou was going undefeated this year, while hearing crap about how Kansas was going to be 'exposed' by OU... which didn't make sense since MU couldn't beat OU last year, but whatever. Of course Mizzou is going to be called a fraud from those who took the same crap and are still taking crap about Kansas.

Exactly. Frazod deserves every bit of this.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

It's a significant possibility? Really? You haven't even scrubbed the Nebraska spooge out of your asses, and you've already deluded yourselves into thinking that you have a shot at beating one of the best teams in the country. That's an accomplishment.

LOL, MU one of the best teams in the country?? Bahaha. Baylor almost beat MU.

Yes it's a significant possibility that KU could win that game.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

It's a significant possibility? Really? You haven't even scrubbed the Nebraska spooge out of your asses, and you've already deluded yourselves into thinking that you have a shot at beating one of the best teams in the country. That's an accomplishment.

One of the best teams in the country.

Biggest victories have been a 5-5 Illinois team that lost to Western Michigan last week, and then... Nebraska? KSU?

Yeah, Kansas was a fraud last year and Mizzou is one of the best teams in the country this year.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Exactly. Frazod deserves every bit of this.

Whatever. I'm not the one who watched my team get punked by the ****ing Cornhuskers yesterday and then ran and hid crying under my bed like a pussy afterwards.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by frazod

Whatever. I'm not the one who watched my team get punked by the ****ing Cornhuskers yesterday and then ran and hid crying under my bed like a pussy afterwards.

What did you want me to do? Come here so you could do this?

LOL at Rivers. That guy is such a choker vs. the Chiefs.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by frazod

Whatever. I'm not the one who watched my team get punked by the ****ing Cornhuskers yesterday and then ran and hid crying under my bed like a pussy afterwards.

I thought my shoes were under there and got some dust in my eyes!

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

We weren't talking about losses. You stated that Florida doesn't have a single victory over a top-notch team (while they pounded #10 Georgia and #20 LSU) while in the same breath you count Missouri and Ok State as quality wins for Texas. Double standard?

You talk about Georgia struggling at Kentucky. Mizzou struggled at Baylor. Ok State's best victory is over Mizzou who doesn't have any quality victories. Georgia beat LSU who doesn't have any quality victories. A blowout victory over #10 Georgia counts more than a sound victory over #12 Mizzou or a slim win over #13 Ok State.

I didn't say that FL didn't have any quality wins. I said that they didn't have any great wins. Even if you consider the win against GA to be a great win, their resume is not in the same class as that of Texas. My point was that you were comparing 1 good win to 2 big wins and saying that the one big win trumped the 2.

Texas throttled MU. Florida throttled GA. That's a push. Texas also beat Oklahoma State. Florida beat LSU. That's a push. Texas also beat Oklahoma. That's better than any win FL has all season, including the win against GA. FL has nothing on their resume that matches up with that third victory, and FL's loss at home to Mississippi is a bad loss. Texas lost to TX Tech on the road. There is no shame in that.

Based on their body of work, do you still think FL belongs above TX?