Chiefs Pat Mahomes (2017 QB Draft Prospect) - Page 5

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-16-2017, 02:27 PM

Not gonna say much.. just going to drop this video here so you can check this guy out if you hadn't. I hadn't until today, and I really like his raw ability.

#1 thing that sticks out to me is he can really evade rushers and chuck it on the run. Amazing raw arm talent.

As long as Reid is calling plays, we need a QB who can make up for his conservative ways. Save your comments about how the Chiefs will never take a QB, because that's bullsh*t. If they find the right one, they will. I think this could be him.

**MahiMike** · 01-19-2017, 12:59 PM

I zeroed in on him today myself after reading Walter football:

Height: 6-3. Weight: 219.
Projected 40 Time: 4.68.
Projected Round (2017): 1-3.
1/9/17: WalterFootball.com was the first to report that Mahomes was planning on entering the 2017 NFL Draft, and he announced that in early January. Mahomes is seeking out experienced NFL quarterback coaches to help him develop for his rookie season. Mahomes completed 66 percent of his passes in 2016 for 5,052 yards with 41 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He also rushed for 12 touchdowns.

Some team sources are intrigued by Mahomes, but others are skeptics. Mahomes has a good arm and has flashed the ability to be a pocket passer. He also has athleticism with enough mobility to buy time and pick up some yards on the ground. Mahomes is a sleeper who could be a steal.

One playoff team told me they have a second-round grade on Mahomes and compare him to Derek Carr coming out of Fresno State. Two other teams said they had Mahomes in the third round, while one playoff general manager said he had him in Round 4. There is love/hate with Mahomes in part because of his college offense, but Mahomes is an accurate passer with a good arm, bulk, flashes of field vision, and mobility.

7/29/16: Mahomes plays in a gimmick college offense that produces a lot of points, but Mahomes has shown potential to get NFL consideration. In 2015, he completed 64 percent for 4,653 yards with 36 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. It was a big improvement over his freshman season when he completed 57 percent of his passes for 1,547 yards with 16 touchdowns and four interceptions.

Read more at http://mail.walterfootball.com/draft...5vgUaY88OHb.99

Rooster · 01-19-2017, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

This team is like an Adam Sandler movie; let's get together all the same bad actors and un-funny script and make a movie. It'll be good this time, I promise.

and chances are if it's on TV I will watch.

carcosa · 01-19-2017, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Well, I thought he was Steph Curry with a helmet on so got him on the horn he said "No Bro, my dad played MLB"./sarcasm

why was he being sarcastic

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-19-2017, 01:42 PM

Mahomes just has some unique ability in him, I feel like. Trubisky feels like a game manager in waiting, Watson has the skill but I'm concerned about how he will hold up in the league physically, and Kizer has a high ceiling..

Of course, a lot of the decision comes down to interviews and checking into a guy's personality, but I really like Mahomes' raw talent. Does things that most can't/won't do.

I honestly think unless he starts shooting up draft boards, he can be had in the 2nd round. Maybe a trade up, but he could definitely be there and allow us to take another need in the first such as ILB.

**wazu** · 01-19-2017, 01:50 PM

Why do this to yourselves? Just stop. Take whatever hope you have left that the Chiefs will draft a QB, place them in front of you, and then smash them with a hammer right now.

carcosa · 01-19-2017, 01:51 PM

If Mahomes is there in the 2nd and the Chiefs don't take him we should burn Arrowhead to the ground

RunKC · 01-19-2017, 02:55 PM

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Coochie liquor · 01-19-2017, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Why do this to yourselves? Just stop. Take whatever hope you have left that the Chiefs will draft a QB, place them in front of you, and then smash them with a hammer right now.

Unfortunately, this....

Palko 4 ever · 01-19-2017, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Why do this to yourselves? Just stop. Take whatever hope you have left that the Chiefs will draft a QB, place them in front of you, and then smash them with a hammer right now.

Because we're gluttons for punishment, why else would we be Chiefs fans?

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-21-2017, 11:26 AM

Here is every snap from the Oklahoma game where Mahomes broke the single game passing record. He has his off plays for sure, but he's clearly a guy who can improvise and extend plays, and make chicken salad out of chicken shit at times. Sprinkles in some well anticipated throws too. He keeps his eyes downfield at all times, and routinely finds someone open in places that most QBs wouldn't even be looking.

I don't see how this kid could be anything but special with some good coaching.

**SAGA45** · 01-21-2017, 11:35 AM

I worry about that offense he's in but he has some obvious arm talent. Gets away with some bad mechanics at times because of his arm. Has some touch and can improvise. Wouldn't surprise me if he peaked the Chiefs interests.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-21-2017, 11:38 AM

Wow, there is a play in the video at around 11:42 where he actually tucks the ball in to run, and ends up stepping back at the LOS and throwing a TD.

A lot of his down field throws seemed to sail over the receivers, FWIW. Probably better to overthrow than underthrow, but it showed up nonetheless.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-21-2017, 11:50 AM

Here is his game vs. Baylor at Jerry's World. Good stuff in here too. Its clear that blitzing Mahomes often comes at a price. Has a habit of throwing off his back foot a bit too much perhaps. Deep ball much better and more consistent here.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 01-21-2017, 05:18 PM

If I were to draft a QB I'd be looking for one that can see downfield and pick out an open receiver like Aaron Rodgers or Big Ben. And downfield accuracy is important. That is the problem with smith he can't look downfield. He panicks too quickly. He has to take the designated playcall or else. I would think a scout with any brains could find one of those !

After watching GoChiefs gifs of the loss to Pitt it just makes me sick. Tyreek wide open sprinting downfield and Smith checking down. There were at least 6 wide open BIG plays he missed.

RippedmyFlesh · 01-21-2017, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I honestly think unless he starts shooting up draft boards, he can be had in the 2nd round. Maybe a trade up, but he could definitely be there and allow us to take another need in the first such as ILB.

If he is considered a 2nd then take him with our 1st why **** around? Our pick is so low in the 1st that it is not a reach really. You can get a ilb without burning a 1st on one. But overall I am as pumped about him as you are thanks for the info.

01-16-2017, 02:27 PM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $8229447	Pat Mahomes (2017 QB Draft Prospect) Not gonna say much.. just going to drop this video here so you can check this guy out if you hadn't. I hadn't until today, and I really like his raw ability. #1 thing that sticks out to me is he can really evade rushers and chuck it on the run. Amazing raw arm talent. As long as Reid is calling plays, we need a QB who can make up for his conservative ways. Save your comments about how the Chiefs will never take a QB, because that's bullsht. If they find the right one, they will. I think this could* be him.
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01-19-2017, 12:59 PM	#61
MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	I zeroed in on him today myself after reading Walter football: Height: 6-3. Weight: 219. Projected 40 Time: 4.68. Projected Round (2017): 1-3. 1/9/17: WalterFootball.com was the first to report that Mahomes was planning on entering the 2017 NFL Draft, and he announced that in early January. Mahomes is seeking out experienced NFL quarterback coaches to help him develop for his rookie season. Mahomes completed 66 percent of his passes in 2016 for 5,052 yards with 41 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He also rushed for 12 touchdowns. Some team sources are intrigued by Mahomes, but others are skeptics. Mahomes has a good arm and has flashed the ability to be a pocket passer. He also has athleticism with enough mobility to buy time and pick up some yards on the ground. Mahomes is a sleeper who could be a steal. One playoff team told me they have a second-round grade on Mahomes and compare him to Derek Carr coming out of Fresno State. Two other teams said they had Mahomes in the third round, while one playoff general manager said he had him in Round 4. There is love/hate with Mahomes in part because of his college offense, but Mahomes is an accurate passer with a good arm, bulk, flashes of field vision, and mobility. 7/29/16: Mahomes plays in a gimmick college offense that produces a lot of points, but Mahomes has shown potential to get NFL consideration. In 2015, he completed 64 percent for 4,653 yards with 36 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. It was a big improvement over his freshman season when he completed 57 percent of his passes for 1,547 yards with 16 touchdowns and four interceptions. Read more at http://mail.walterfootball.com/draft...5vgUaY88OHb.99 __________________ 99.9%
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01-19-2017, 01:42 PM	#64
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $8229447	Mahomes just has some unique ability in him, I feel like. Trubisky feels like a game manager in waiting, Watson has the skill but I'm concerned about how he will hold up in the league physically, and Kizer has a high ceiling.. Of course, a lot of the decision comes down to interviews and checking into a guy's personality, but I really like Mahomes' raw talent. Does things that most can't/won't do. I honestly think unless he starts shooting up draft boards, he can be had in the 2nd round. Maybe a trade up, but he could definitely be there and allow us to take another need in the first such as ILB. Last edited by pugsnotdrugs19; 01-19-2017 at 01:47 PM..
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wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $212295 VARSITY	Why do this to yourselves? Just stop. Take whatever hope you have left that the Chiefs will draft a QB, place them in front of you, and then smash them with a hammer right now.
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carcosa Thank you Join Date: May 2014 Casino cash: $923695	If Mahomes is there in the 2nd and the Chiefs don't take him we should burn Arrowhead to the ground
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01-21-2017, 11:26 AM	#70
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $8229447	Here is every snap from the Oklahoma game where Mahomes broke the single game passing record. He has his off plays for sure, but he's clearly a guy who can improvise and extend plays, and make chicken salad out of chicken shit at times. Sprinkles in some well anticipated throws too. He keeps his eyes downfield at all times, and routinely finds someone open in places that most QBs wouldn't even be looking. I don't see how this kid could be anything but special with some good coaching.
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01-21-2017, 11:35 AM	#71
SAGA45 Supporter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Compton, CA Casino cash: $3544955	I worry about that offense he's in but he has some obvious arm talent. Gets away with some bad mechanics at times because of his arm. Has some touch and can improvise. Wouldn't surprise me if he peaked the Chiefs interests.
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01-21-2017, 11:38 AM	#72
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $8229447	Wow, there is a play in the video at around 11:42 where he actually tucks the ball in to run, and ends up stepping back at the LOS and throwing a TD. A lot of his down field throws seemed to sail over the receivers, FWIW. Probably better to overthrow than underthrow, but it showed up nonetheless. Last edited by pugsnotdrugs19; 01-21-2017 at 11:45 AM..
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01-21-2017, 11:50 AM	#73
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $8229447	Here is his game vs. Baylor at Jerry's World. Good stuff in here too. Its clear that blitzing Mahomes often comes at a price. Has a habit of throwing off his back foot a bit too much perhaps. Deep ball much better and more consistent here.
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01-21-2017, 05:18 PM	#74
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-159523	If I were to draft a QB I'd be looking for one that can see downfield and pick out an open receiver like Aaron Rodgers or Big Ben. And downfield accuracy is important. That is the problem with smith he can't look downfield. He panicks too quickly. He has to take the designated playcall or else. I would think a scout with any brains could find one of those ! After watching GoChiefs gifs of the loss to Pitt it just makes me sick. Tyreek wide open sprinting downfield and Smith checking down. There were at least 6 wide open BIG plays he missed.
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