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Old 07-24-2024, 03:04 PM  
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49ers LT Trent Williams is holding out


3 years left on his deal, scheduled to make $20M in 2024.
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Old 07-25-2024, 10:07 AM   #61
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Am I on an island in thinking Purdy is....a good QB?
He’s definitely good and has more than outplayed his deal. Problem for him is that he is not elite. SF will have to decide on whether to pay him elite money or not and because they went to a SB with Jimmy G as well they might think that they can do it with a new QB.
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Old 07-25-2024, 10:34 AM   #62
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Doesn't Jackson kind of suck in the playoffs though? When he's not outright injured (or supposedly holding out) his body of work thus far has been remarkably subpar at best.
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Old 07-25-2024, 10:47 AM   #63
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Doesn't Jackson kind of suck in the playoffs though? When he's not outright injured (or supposedly holding out) his body of work thus far has been remarkably subpar at best.
For sure.

But get me to the playoffs every year playing at the level he does. Eventually you'd think he'll break thru.
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Old 07-25-2024, 10:48 AM   #64
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Doesn't Jackson kind of suck in the playoffs though? When he's not outright injured (or supposedly holding out) his body of work thus far has been remarkably subpar at best.
Kinda what I'm saying. If Lamar was so god damn good, maybe he'd actually win in the playoffs more. Same with Herbert whom everyone seems to love. You can be mega talented and that deserves some praise, but it's not worth much if you can't actually win when it matters.
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Well....there's really only 1 guy that has won when it matters.

At some point, the talking heads will realize that those other Qb's just happen to be in the wrong era and theres a guy that just beats them.
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For sure.

But get me to the playoffs every year playing at the level he does. Eventually you'd think he'll break thru.
Last year was there best shot and they blew it. I don't think they're ever getting a better shot than that again.
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Last year was there best shot and they blew it. I don't think they're ever getting a better shot than that again.
As long as he's healthy, they'll be there in the end, like divisional round and such.

I'm not sure he throws the ball well enough to really win when it matters, but he's seemingly improved on that.
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He’s definitely good and has more than outplayed his deal. Problem for him is that he is not elite. SF will have to decide on whether to pay him elite money or not and because they went to a SB with Jimmy G as well they might think that they can do it with a new QB.
They came within a **** hair of winning the SB with Purdy. He's good enough to win the SB if they're going to surround him with all world talent again. Question is, how long can they continue doing that?

Their front office has done a great job of acquiring and developing players. Outside of the Chiefs, they're the best franchise in the league over the last six seasons.
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Last year was there best shot and they blew it. I don't think they're ever getting a better shot than that again.
All they have to do is get there some year the Chiefs don't, and they should win. Granted those are few and far between, but the Rams managed it.
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All they have to do is get there some year the Chiefs don't, and they should win. Granted those are few and far between, but the Rams managed it.
Not like the Chiefs beat them by 20. These games can go either way. Obviously having Mahomes over Purdy moves the needle but that doesn't guarantee dominance, or even victory. The 49ers have a model that works. Of course they'd like a franchise QB but they're doing better than most other franchises, even those with franchise QBs.
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Last year was there best shot and they blew it. I don't think they're ever getting a better shot than that again.
Meanwhile Brock Purdy lead a big comeback in the Championship game to take his team to the SB.

Thats the difference. We’ve never seen Lamar do anything like that when it matters.

He’s terrible in the playoffs
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Not like the Chiefs beat them by 20. These games can go either way. Obviously having Mahomes over Purdy moves the needle but that doesn't guarantee dominance, or even victory. The 49ers have a model that works. Of course they'd like a franchise QB but they're doing better than most other franchises, even those with franchise QBs.
I realize it was close, and we were down by 10 again. But for whatever reason we seem to consistently come out on top of the 49ers during the Reid-Shanahan era. They could still beat us, but I would never bet on it.

Against any other AFC team I would actually bet on the 49ers.
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All they have to do is get there some year the Chiefs don't, and they should win. Granted those are few and far between, but the Rams managed it.
Exactly how much time do you think Lamar has?

2-3 years max before we start seeing a drastic decline. Running QBs don't age like passing QBs.

The other issue is that they will likely never have the 1st seed again. That division is ROUGH.
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Exactly how much time do you think Lamar has?

2-3 years max before we start seeing a drastic decline. Running QBs don't age like passing QBs.

The other issue is that they will likely never have the 1st seed again. That division is ROUGH.
Okay, thought you were talking about the 49ers.
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Okay, thought you were talking about the 49ers.
Ohh gotcha, yea O.city was responding to a post about Lamar.
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