WE ARE GOING TO GET TY LAW!!!!!!! - Page 5

SLAG · 10:38 PM

Per
Jack Harry on 10PM News

Willie Roaf has Now Restructured his contract...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild Eyed Jack Harry

..THIS MEANS WE ARE GOING TO FREE CAP SPACE.... THE CHIEFS CAN GO GET TY LAW... THE CHIEFS ARE GOING TO GET TY LAW...

**jAZ** · 07-12-2006, 09:42 AM

http://www.topix.net/content/kri/049...99914129939258

Law working hard for right spot

Kansas City Star
By ELIZABETH MERRILL
July 11, 2006

"He always has the attitude that he's either going to finish the workout or pass out 'I'd love to have the opportunity to play for (Kansas City) and being reunited with Herm Edwards."

ST. LOUIS | The morning air hangs like a wet rag, and they clop around the track again. One guy bobbles a football. They drop and do 15 pushups.

It's an ordinary oppressive summer day in suburbia. Then a teenager points to two well-sculpted men circling a high-school track and asks, 'Are they famous?'

Ty Law zooms past a senior citizen in the slow lane, then finally slows down, his shirt soaked to his chest. He flashes a smile.

'How you doin'?' he asks.

At least a half-dozen teams are pursuing him - about half can afford him - and on this particular day, Law's cell phone is in the proverbial off position. Training camp starts in two weeks. Law still doesn't have a job, but he's told his agent not to jangle until the serious offers roll in.

Law is in training.

He'll spend four hours outside today, in the sticky St. Louis heat, working with famed track coach Bob Kersee. They call it the 'House of Pain,' and Law knows that if he can make it through this, if he can run with Olympians and stomach Kersee's constant orders to 'Go, go, go!' he can hang with any Pro Bowl receiver.

And make a difference in any NFL city. His main suitors are New England, Arizona, Seattle and Kansas City, and it's assumed the Chiefs and Patriots are the front-runners. Law hates it when people assume. But it's obvious that New England and Kansas City are heavily on his mind, in part, he says, because 'they have a pretty damn good chance of winning.'

Sentimentality may play into it, too. Kansas City is where Herm Edwards is now the coach, and Law and Edwards are longtime friends. Edwards coached him in New York last fall, when doubters wondered whether Law could come back from a serious foot injury, and Law ended up with a league-high 10 interceptions.

New England is where Law won three Super Bowls but was a salary-cap casualty after the foot injury.

'I'd love to have the opportunity to play for (Kansas City), especially going up there and being reunited with Herm Edwards, because we have some unfinished business,' Law said Tuesday. 'If we get together again, fine. But at the same time, we both know this is a business, and all fairy tales don't come true. It's not out of the question that I can return back to New England because I didn't leave on bad terms. It was business. Me and coach (Bill) Belichick, contrary to what everyone might believe, we're fine.

'I'm not opposed to going to either (place). Do I have preferences? Hmmmm, I can't even say that. That puts myself at a disadvantage.'

It has been 16 months since Law hobbled into Arrowhead Stadium for a free-agency visit and made Kansas City atwitter. He was considered the missing piece for a team with an explosive offense and shaky secondary. Some fans proclaimed that Law's acquisition would send the Chiefs to the Super Bowl.

But instead of risking big money on a cornerback with an iffy foot, the Chiefs signed two-time Pro Bowl cornerback Patrick Surtain last spring. Surtain, who happens to be a neighbor of Law's in Florida, called Law this week.

Law said Tuesday that the idea of playing with Surtain and safety Sammy Knight is appealing.

'They're proven,' Law said. 'I know they can play back there in that secondary. It would be great to have an opportunity to play with them and play in Kansas City. When I took a visit there last year, I was like, 'Man, I can work with this.' But unfortunately, it didn't happen.'

Law said his decision isn't just about money. He wants to go somewhere he feels comfortable. He said he's turned down some deep-pocketed teams that he didn't think could win in 2006. After enduring a 4-12 season in New York last year, Law said he can't go through another rebuilding season.

That's why he's spending another summer with Kersee, who has coached Olympic gold medalists Gail Devers and Jackie Joyner-Kersee, who is his wife. Kersee also has trained NFL stars Jerome Bettis and Marshall Faulk.

The first year Law started working with Kersee, he made it to the Pro Bowl. He flew his coach to Hawaii, and when Law returned an interception for a touchdown in Super Bowl XXXVI, Kersee said it was as big as an Olympic moment.

'He always has the attitude that he's either going to finish the workout or pass out,' Kersee said. 'Whatever I give out, he's going to eat it in full portions. He reminds me of some of my collegiate athletes. He wants to be the best corner in the business.'

Though they've worked together for seven summers, Law may have had his best season in 2005, when he was too hurt to train with Kersee. Arriving long after the start of training camp, Law had 62 tackles and had a career-high 10 interceptions.

Throughout his career, Law has dominated by outmuscling his opponents. In 2005, he had to outthink them.

He isn't ruling out the possibility that he may not sign by the start of camp. He said he wants fair-market value as one of the NFL's top cornerbacks. Law commanded around $6 million from the Jets last year.

At 32, he's ready to prove that he still deserves that label as premier cornerback again. Law isn't sweating, because he's been through this before. And he'll be somewhere again.

'I think I'm a proven commodity,' he said. 'A lot of people want to bring up the age factor. I've been hearing that for the last few years. 'He's getting older, he's getting older.' But yet I'm still in the Pro Bowl, I'm still leading the league in interceptions, I'm the only one who has three Super Bowl rings out of all the guys we're talking about.

'Deep down, people understand that. That's why they're called negotiations. They try to leverage, you try to leverage. I'm at a point where I'm comfortable with myself. I'm not out there chasing. I love the game. I know I'll be playing football. Am I going to rush in and not do the right thing? I won't do that.'

Copyright © 2006 Kansas City Star, All Rights Reserved.

Mr. Laz · 07-12-2006, 09:43 AM

Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
He’ll spend four hours outside today, in the sticky St. Louis heat, working with famed track coach Bob Kersee. They call it the “House of Pain,” and Law knows that if he can make it through this, if he can run with Olympians and stomach Kersee’s constant orders to “Go, go, go!” he can hang with any Pro Bowl receiver.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

i wish more of our guys would worked this hard

Chiefnj · 07-12-2006, 09:44 AM

"But it's obvious that New England and Kansas City are heavily on his mind, in part, he says, because 'they have a pretty damn good chance of winning.'"

Obviously the guy was suffering from heat stroke.

**noa** · 07-12-2006, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj

"But it's obvious that New England and Kansas City are heavily on his mind, in part, he says, because 'they have a pretty damn good chance of winning.'"

Obviously the guy was suffering from heat stroke.

Do you mean I should return my super bowl tickets?

Chiefnj · 07-12-2006, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
He’ll spend four hours outside today, in the sticky St. Louis heat, working with famed track coach Bob Kersee. They call it the “House of Pain,” and Law knows that if he can make it through this, if he can run with Olympians and stomach Kersee’s constant orders to “Go, go, go!” he can hang with any Pro Bowl receiver.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

i wish more of our guys would worked this hard

Sims works out at the "House of Pancakes". Is that close enough?

JimNasium · 07-12-2006, 09:49 AM

I have still not see anything that conclusively led me to believe that Willie was seriously contemplating retirement. The story that has been widely cited on the Planet was so vague that if left me with the belief that he was referring to the end of last season after DV retired and before Herm came on board. The vague nature of the story was a perfect breeding ground for the alarmist (you know who you are) to start the normal panic session.

Fish · 07-12-2006, 09:53 AM

I'm one of those that doesn't really care one way or the other. I don't think anyone would argue that it would improve our coverage...

But.... I'm sick of everyone having the mindset that Law is the only way we'll be competitive. How many damn idiot media reports do I have to read that say "Unless the Chiefs sign Ty Law, they really didn't do much to improve..." or "Ty Law could be the difference between a SB run and another 9 win season..."

Blehhh....

And if we did sign him.... all we'd hear about is KC SB favorites! Ty Law taking them to the SB!

I'm just really tired of the bullshit when we don't need him as badly as people would think....

sedated · 07-12-2006, 10:01 AM

This had absolutely nothing to do with Ty Law.

We had, and still have, plenty of cap room to sign him.

This was about giving Big Willie what he deserved.

He has been the best OLineman in the game since he got here, and wasn't making the money that the others were (simply because his contract was older than Pace, Jones, etc)

He wasn't seriously going to retire, either.

He just wanted money without coming out and saying, "Get Paid"

This is how a professional handles negotiations, doesn't use the media to express his thoughts (he just black mails Carl with retirement talk)

Kclee · 07-12-2006, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish

But.... I'm sick of everyone having the mindset that Law is the only way we'll be competitive. How many damn idiot media reports do I have to read that say "Unless the Chiefs sign Ty Law, they really didn't do much to improve..." or "Ty Law could be the difference between a SB run and another 9 win season..."

Blehhh....

Would the people saying that been right last year? We can never know. But we did finish 10-6, just out of the playoffs. Warfield was out the first 4 games and Surtain was injured a little off and on. LJ was unstoppable, and the O was on a roll. If the Chiefs would have had Law.... Heh.

blueballs · 07-12-2006, 11:04 AM

Jared Allen, Tony G
contracts are up
LJ will be getting paid
that money is already spent

htismaqe · 07-12-2006, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kclee

Would the people saying that been right last year? We can never know. But we did finish 10-6, just out of the playoffs. Warfield was out the first 4 games and Surtain was injured a little off and on. LJ was unstoppable, and the O was on a roll. If the Chiefs would have had Law.... Heh.

I highly doubt Law would have single-handedly held Tiki Barber under 200 yards, and that game really broke the season for us.

Ultra Peanut · 07-12-2006, 11:22 AM

thats cool i guess

tk13 · 07-12-2006, 11:35 AM

I'm a big Law fan. I wanted us to sign him last year. I think if we sign him, he could be our best CB.

But, if our pass rush doesn't improve, having Surtain and Law does nothing. You don't win a championship with a secondary. Most average fans couldn't name one secondary player in last year's Super Bowl besides Polumalu. In today's touchy feely NFL, cornerback is turning into the most overrated position on the field, so of course that's what we'll spend 80-90 million dollars on and be best at.

arrowheadnation · 07-12-2006, 11:50 AM

Won't the front office have to be thinking about stowing away some extra funds to pay LJ once his contract is up?

blueballs · 07-12-2006, 11:52 AM

FTR Law's 2005 INTs
KC-1
TB-1
Buff-1
Atl-1
Car-1
Oak-1
NE-1
Buff-3 more

07-12-2006, 09:42 AM	#61
jAZ Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Casino cash: $9847493	http://www.topix.net/content/kri/049...99914129939258 Law working hard for right spot Kansas City Star By ELIZABETH MERRILL July 11, 2006 "He always has the attitude that he's either going to finish the workout or pass out 'I'd love to have the opportunity to play for (Kansas City) and being reunited with Herm Edwards." ST. LOUIS \| The morning air hangs like a wet rag, and they clop around the track again. One guy bobbles a football. They drop and do 15 pushups. It's an ordinary oppressive summer day in suburbia. Then a teenager points to two well-sculpted men circling a high-school track and asks, 'Are they famous?' Ty Law zooms past a senior citizen in the slow lane, then finally slows down, his shirt soaked to his chest. He flashes a smile. 'How you doin'?' he asks. At least a half-dozen teams are pursuing him - about half can afford him - and on this particular day, Law's cell phone is in the proverbial off position. Training camp starts in two weeks. Law still doesn't have a job, but he's told his agent not to jangle until the serious offers roll in. Law is in training. He'll spend four hours outside today, in the sticky St. Louis heat, working with famed track coach Bob Kersee. They call it the 'House of Pain,' and Law knows that if he can make it through this, if he can run with Olympians and stomach Kersee's constant orders to 'Go, go, go!' he can hang with any Pro Bowl receiver. And make a difference in any NFL city. His main suitors are New England, Arizona, Seattle and Kansas City, and it's assumed the Chiefs and Patriots are the front-runners. Law hates it when people assume. But it's obvious that New England and Kansas City are heavily on his mind, in part, he says, because 'they have a pretty damn good chance of winning.' Sentimentality may play into it, too. Kansas City is where Herm Edwards is now the coach, and Law and Edwards are longtime friends. Edwards coached him in New York last fall, when doubters wondered whether Law could come back from a serious foot injury, and Law ended up with a league-high 10 interceptions. New England is where Law won three Super Bowls but was a salary-cap casualty after the foot injury. 'I'd love to have the opportunity to play for (Kansas City), especially going up there and being reunited with Herm Edwards, because we have some unfinished business,' Law said Tuesday. 'If we get together again, fine. But at the same time, we both know this is a business, and all fairy tales don't come true. It's not out of the question that I can return back to New England because I didn't leave on bad terms. It was business. Me and coach (Bill) Belichick, contrary to what everyone might believe, we're fine. 'I'm not opposed to going to either (place). Do I have preferences? Hmmmm, I can't even say that. That puts myself at a disadvantage.' It has been 16 months since Law hobbled into Arrowhead Stadium for a free-agency visit and made Kansas City atwitter. He was considered the missing piece for a team with an explosive offense and shaky secondary. Some fans proclaimed that Law's acquisition would send the Chiefs to the Super Bowl. But instead of risking big money on a cornerback with an iffy foot, the Chiefs signed two-time Pro Bowl cornerback Patrick Surtain last spring. Surtain, who happens to be a neighbor of Law's in Florida, called Law this week. Law said Tuesday that the idea of playing with Surtain and safety Sammy Knight is appealing. 'They're proven,' Law said. 'I know they can play back there in that secondary. It would be great to have an opportunity to play with them and play in Kansas City. When I took a visit there last year, I was like, 'Man, I can work with this.' But unfortunately, it didn't happen.' Law said his decision isn't just about money. He wants to go somewhere he feels comfortable. He said he's turned down some deep-pocketed teams that he didn't think could win in 2006. After enduring a 4-12 season in New York last year, Law said he can't go through another rebuilding season. That's why he's spending another summer with Kersee, who has coached Olympic gold medalists Gail Devers and Jackie Joyner-Kersee, who is his wife. Kersee also has trained NFL stars Jerome Bettis and Marshall Faulk. The first year Law started working with Kersee, he made it to the Pro Bowl. He flew his coach to Hawaii, and when Law returned an interception for a touchdown in Super Bowl XXXVI, Kersee said it was as big as an Olympic moment. 'He always has the attitude that he's either going to finish the workout or pass out,' Kersee said. 'Whatever I give out, he's going to eat it in full portions. He reminds me of some of my collegiate athletes. He wants to be the best corner in the business.' Though they've worked together for seven summers, Law may have had his best season in 2005, when he was too hurt to train with Kersee. Arriving long after the start of training camp, Law had 62 tackles and had a career-high 10 interceptions. Throughout his career, Law has dominated by outmuscling his opponents. In 2005, he had to outthink them. He isn't ruling out the possibility that he may not sign by the start of camp. He said he wants fair-market value as one of the NFL's top cornerbacks. Law commanded around $6 million from the Jets last year. At 32, he's ready to prove that he still deserves that label as premier cornerback again. Law isn't sweating, because he's been through this before. And he'll be somewhere again. 'I think I'm a proven commodity,' he said. 'A lot of people want to bring up the age factor. I've been hearing that for the last few years. 'He's getting older, he's getting older.' But yet I'm still in the Pro Bowl, I'm still leading the league in interceptions, I'm the only one who has three Super Bowl rings out of all the guys we're talking about. 'Deep down, people understand that. That's why they're called negotiations. They try to leverage, you try to leverage. I'm at a point where I'm comfortable with myself. I'm not out there chasing. I love the game. I know I'll be playing football. Am I going to rush in and not do the right thing? I won't do that.' Copyright © 2006 Kansas City Star, All Rights Reserved.
Posts: 24,799

07-12-2006, 09:43 AM	#62
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- He’ll spend four hours outside today, in the sticky St. Louis heat, working with famed track coach Bob Kersee. They call it the “House of Pain,” and Law knows that if he can make it through this, if he can run with Olympians and stomach Kersee’s constant orders to “Go, go, go!” he can hang with any Pro Bowl receiver. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i wish more of our guys would worked this hard __________________
Posts: 95,626

07-12-2006, 09:44 AM	#63
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	"But it's obvious that New England and Kansas City are heavily on his mind, in part, he says, because 'they have a pretty damn good chance of winning.'" Obviously the guy was suffering from heat stroke. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
Posts: 6,811

07-12-2006, 09:49 AM	#66
JimNasium Voodoo Chile Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: At the crossroad Casino cash: $1096857	I have still not see anything that conclusively led me to believe that Willie was seriously contemplating retirement. The story that has been widely cited on the Planet was so vague that if left me with the belief that he was referring to the end of last season after DV retired and before Herm came on board. The vague nature of the story was a perfect breeding ground for the alarmist (you know who you are) to start the normal panic session.
Posts: 7,029

07-12-2006, 09:53 AM	#67
Fish Ain't no relax! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $518919	I'm one of those that doesn't really care one way or the other. I don't think anyone would argue that it would improve our coverage... But.... I'm sick of everyone having the mindset that Law is the only way we'll be competitive. How many damn idiot media reports do I have to read that say "Unless the Chiefs sign Ty Law, they really didn't do much to improve..." or "Ty Law could be the difference between a SB run and another 9 win season..." Blehhh.... And if we did sign him.... all we'd hear about is KC SB favorites! Ty Law taking them to the SB! I'm just really tired of the bullshit when we don't need him as badly as people would think.... __________________
Posts: 48,416

07-12-2006, 11:04 AM	#70
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	Jared Allen, Tony G contracts are up LJ will be getting paid that money is already spent
Posts: 14,233

07-12-2006, 11:22 AM	#72
Ultra Peanut v^V^v^V^v^V^ Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Holland* Casino cash: $10005177	thats cool i guess __________________
Posts: 39,518

07-12-2006, 11:35 AM	#73
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $222500	I'm a big Law fan. I wanted us to sign him last year. I think if we sign him, he could be our best CB. But, if our pass rush doesn't improve, having Surtain and Law does nothing. You don't win a championship with a secondary. Most average fans couldn't name one secondary player in last year's Super Bowl besides Polumalu. In today's touchy feely NFL, cornerback is turning into the most overrated position on the field, so of course that's what we'll spend 80-90 million dollars on and be best at.
Posts: 55,842

07-12-2006, 11:50 AM	#74
arrowheadnation MONTANA #19 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $4707357	Won't the front office have to be thinking about stowing away some extra funds to pay LJ once his contract is up? __________________ Things I need to happen in order to die happy.... KU wins a National Championship....Check! The Royals win a World Series....Check! The Chiefs win a Super Bowl....FINALLY!!!
Posts: 4,389

07-12-2006, 11:52 AM	#75
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	FTR Law's 2005 INTs KC-1 TB-1 Buff-1 Atl-1 Car-1 Oak-1 NE-1 Buff-3 more
Posts: 14,233