Shohei Ohtani is a mutant freak.

[Megatron96]

51-51. 6-6, 3 HRs, 2SB, 10RBI, 5XBH. What the utter eff does that? I'm 99% certain we are living among aliens. Because Ohtani is a walking talking alien. Just wow. Oh, and LAD has 9 games left to play. 60-60 anyone? Oh, and Ohtani's technically 'rehabbing' after his Tommy John surgery. Discuss. Shit yerself. Speak in tongues. Have at it. This is one of those moments.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Ocotillo

Tom Verducci is a steroid hardliner.

Rob Manfred declares Ortiz's 2003 failed test should not be considered a true positive for legal reasons.

Verducci uses Manfred's edict as a justisfication to vote for Ortiz.

There's more to it than this. Ortiz is the face of the 2000s-10s Red Sox, the face of the 2004 comeback, the man who declared this is our ****ing city. The writers liked him and gave him a pass. "The politics of glory" as Bill James once appropriately remarked.

Bud selig hiring a Red Sox guy to lead up the steroids investigation then to conveniently leave off names from their World Series runs is a stain on the stain.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Ocotillo

Baseball had nothing to do with it. The Baseball Writers Association of America kept them out.

They're not entitled to the Hall of Fame anyway.

They knew what they did was wrong. They have nobody to blame but themselves.

They got to keep their money. They got to keep their records. Keeping them out is a message to other players that cheating has consequences.

I agree with that. And Pete rose and shoeless Joe too. Because throwing games is even worse.

If there’s ever an unconscionable snub it’s curt schilling who is a borderline HOFer but is also probably blackballed for personal beliefs